Originally Posted by SinoBritAsia
(Post 29012568)
Page 17 and 120 linked. It appears BA will get 3 more B777-300s based on the document
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Heathrow B747 refurbishment starts 2018 (?) - > Anyone know more about what is going on here? Is this linked to the dozen being retained - so more super Hi-Js?
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 29012638)
I think there are 18 in the 52J set-up. There are also some 86J aircraft which date back to the mid 1990s. I counted 36 747s in all, so that suggests a dozen will be retained.
I still think an ageing 747 beats pretty much any 777. |
Originally Posted by mjh0
(Post 29012580)
Could be the end of the line for the three non-ER 772s (G-ZZZ*) by the sound of it?
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Originally Posted by sts603
(Post 29012604)
sad indeed. Assume these will be the 52J birds?
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Originally Posted by SinoBritAsia
(Post 29012646)
Heathrow B747 refurbishment starts 2018 (?) - > Anyone know more about what is going on here? Is this linked to the dozen being retained - so more super Hi-Js?
Originally Posted by chongcao
(Post 29012650)
I would though the hi-J has more cycles due to shorter flight to JFK?
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Originally Posted by Worcester
(Post 29012538)
Just been looking at the Singapore airlines new offering. And I wonder if this investment in CW is going to be enough to keep it competitive.
Originally Posted by stewaran
(Post 29012563)
I guess competitive will not trying to compete to be the best product in the world.
More likely competitive enough to keep it mostly full! Premium and All are my emphasises. I know it has been repetitive, but I would thought many of the customers sitting in Euro Traveller cabin or Domestic Economy cabin would wonder what the premium is about in BA now. |
Originally Posted by SinoBritAsia
(Post 29012510)
Presentation here: http://www.iairgroup.com/phoenix.zht...-presentations
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Originally Posted by golfmad
(Post 29012639)
Would it not make sense to analyze the detail first before heading down this negative train of thought?
New top tier Club World seat in development; rollout from 2019 The £400m figure has been around for 2-3 years as I can remember, but all I have seen onboard is some new food and blankets on 1 route and a refreshed IFE on 86J 747s. Oh, and wifi on only 4 aircraft. Did I miss something about the onboard product? |
Originally Posted by V10
(Post 29012632)
And that is pretty much it - rose-tinted nostalgia.
So much about many of these aircraft is now tired - the cabins, the IFE, the seating, and especially the passengers who were not fortunate enough to be on the upper deck that just got off one after a 10 hour flight. Nevertheless, if some (or some more) are to be refurbished, that has got to be good news. |
Originally Posted by V10
(Post 29012632)
And that is pretty much it - rose-tinted nostalgia.
So much about many of these aircraft is now tired - the cabins, the IFE, the seating, and especially the passengers who were not fortunate enough to be on the upper deck that just got off one after a 10 hour flight. So yes, it makes perfect sense that the 744 get retired, mostly on grounds that have actually nothing to do with passenger comfort, but many a status holding CW passenger will in fact wish they retired the 772/773 instead, and many a Y pax might want different choices too after experiencing the sardine can 788 and the new high density 772. |
Page 120:
B772/B787 densification. We know what they are going to do with B772. But how can B787 densification been further expanded? My guess could be B789 loosing F seats. Yet it is puzzling IAG just said B787 instead of B789 where they specify B772... |
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"B747 fleet exits Feb 2024" 2018 refurbishment will not have a long life. |
Going back to the presentation: I do find it rather laughable that BA are referencing uncertainly in North Korea as a 'competitive threat'.
Excuse making? |
Originally Posted by JMurray
(Post 29012746)
Going back to the presentation: I do find it rather laughable that BA are referencing uncertainly in North Korea as a 'competitive threat'.
Excuse making? And their target is North America - BA's core market. |
"New top tier Club World seat in development; rollout from 2019"
So at least another two years of me avoiding BA longhaul J, then. "Premium positioning for all customers" Lol. |
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