henkybaby

That you can do.

simons1

It is hypothetical in relation to what the OP posted, because no one has seen the letter and, assuming it actually existed, there is no evidence that it said the passenger couldn't wear a seatbelt.

However if you are saying that what "apparently" happened is true, and if a doctors letter existed, and if it said the passenger couldn't wear a seatbelt, then I agree that they are effectively unable to fly. However there are a lot of ifs there and I wouldn't rely on the account of someone sat in another cabin who would not know the precise detail of what happened.

Ber2dca

Another reason not to fly with kids. Parents, drive down to Cornwall, Highlands, Lake District, the Isle of Wight, Dover, you can even take the ferry to Ireland, Belgium or France. There's so many places to see that don't require a flight..

Jimmie76

+1 ^

C W

Ahh I see. I agree the letter referenced by OP is hypothetical.

I was trying to say that an actual letter from a doctor that said you couldn't wear a seatbelt is a very real no-fly letter.

subject2load

I can understand - and broadly agree with - your general sentiment.

However, worth remembering that there are sometimes 'unavoidable' reasons for taking young kids on an aircraft. A common one revolves around various family members who might be separated by geography, and the wish to arrange visits. (I myself would have seen far less of my nephews/nieces in their early years, had their Australian-based parents not brought them fairly regularly on holiday trips to the UK). There can also be a need for air travel with kids arising from personal tragic circumstances affecting family members in different parts of the world.

Family-specific issues apart, parents who have travelled widely in their youth might wish for their own children to experience different cultures, food, language - and a general awareness of the wider world. Whilst not a vital need, that sort of motive will often involve air travel.

Jimmie76 ^

Ber2dca

Of course, there can be circumstances where it's unavoidable. But a lot of parents think like there's no weighing of priorities at all involved and everyone who could have an issue with little kids on planes is just a big ole meanie and has no legitimate arguments at all.

With regard to traveling the world and all that..I have a feeling most 2-7 year olds won't have much appreciation for all the marvels of that and in reality it's just the parents that want to go and take the kids with them.

tartempion

I often fly with my now 6 year young girl.
Never had any kind of problem on a plane, yes nowadays she wants a window seat and enjoys the scenery. Up to last year she would not care where to sit.

Yes in the gate area she plays/runs around, I never leave her unattended.

We went on holiday early this month to Cha Am, flew UTH-DMK hired a car with driver to Cha Am, no way I will drive the 800kms x2. Left home at 5 am, swimming at beach/swimming pool at lunch time.

Petrus

This thread is now very OT. Stick to the topic.

Thanks,
Petrus, Moderator BAEC Forum

Petrus

Some rather sweeping statements here.

SullyofDoha

Moral_low_ground, First off, I understand your frustration. On flights throughout the GCC the sense of entitlement displayed by SOME khaliji (local Gulf Arabs) is appalling. The only time that I have ever seen a cabin crew put a local person in their place for moving around upon takeoff was on a US carrier flight between DXB and DOH. North American flight crews take no guff while Gulf Crews tend to do very little due to fear of losing their job upon being reported, like the guy did to you. A word to the wise would be to have NOT engaged with the guy any further. Once you are in their country, they have the advantage and if they have wasta they can make your life very difficult for you. They could inform the authorities that you swore at them, raised your middle finger at them or worst if all, made disparaging remarks against their religion. Being accused of having committed any of the above offensives will land you in jail. Not worth the five seconds of getting after them when flying TO their country airport. Flying AWAY from the Gulf, might allow for some leeway

madfish

That could apply to everyone. If parents and children flying bothers you so much it would be best if you stayed at home.

beachmouse

The Stateside dismal scientists have run the numbers in different scenarios, and came to the conclusion that in an ideal world, banning lap infants would be best practices for optimal safety. However, the additional costs of mandating one plane seat per baby passenger would push too many US families to drive to domestic destinations instead, and those additional road miles would cause far more injuries and deaths to children than allowing lap infants in extremely safe planes does.

Worcester

+1

Ldnn1

You wish more police officers would pretend to be acting in the course of their duty when they aren't and would threaten members of the public just to please their partner? I don't.