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henkybaby Apr 11, 2016 6:26 am

WT and WTP (family holiday) fare deals
 
Inspired by mikeyfly, I figured it might be an idea to also have a thread where we can help people find good deals. Those travelling with families for the holidays may not all be in the market for CW or F tickets. Also they may prefer shorter travel times with not too many transits, including positioning.

Sometimes you can save more (in %) on finding a good deal in WT for a family of 4 than on a trip for 2 to BKK in CW.

So, publish your good deals (on OW airlines) here and help out your fellow travellers finding those often very welcome savings.

(as a slight exception to the Premium Fares thread, I would suggest that 1 stop superdeals exUK on other alliances are welcome too. However, I would suggest looking at secretflying.com first. We don't like them stealing our ideas all the time, but they do have a good overview for economy deals.)

PS: I have no idea when the UK school holidays are. So if you have a request, please use dates instead of 'summer holiday'... :)

flashware Apr 11, 2016 6:44 am

Good one, thanks henkybaby. Occasionally there is a need to fly Y to get across for a US-based TP run ;)

mikeyfly Apr 11, 2016 6:49 am

This really is a great idea Henky – I know most people here on FT are after a bargain (under £1k) long haul exEU to somewhere in a premium cabin, but there will be lots of lurkers / passer-byers / friends and family that actually want a family vacation inside school holidays that is often nearing £1k per person – economy. This will be a good tool and help those that price at whatever (discomfort) is best getting them to their destination.

creampuff Apr 11, 2016 7:47 am

Cathay Pacific: now having 7 day sale with plenty of PEY fares, including LHR-HKG for <£1000.

stewaran Apr 11, 2016 7:54 am

great idea, I would be interested in anything LHR-PER

Went in 2009 for £362 each with SQ. be nice to see it at that price again!

ESFLYER95 Apr 11, 2016 7:55 am


Originally Posted by stewaran (Post 26468596)
great idea, I would be interested in anything LHR-PER

Went in 2009 for £362 each with SQ. be nice to see it at that price again!

Email from QF this morning. Perth from £618 in a new sale.

Swiss Tony Apr 11, 2016 7:56 am

Three thoughts...

1) I don't think it's ingenious to correlate interest here just to families.

2) There's a huge gulf between PE and Y, especially with BA's micro-pitch on the 787 and the prospect of 10-across on the 777.

3) You start catering to a very limited audience when people say "I want to fly really cheaply in Y but will only travel XYZ"

Now, to add something helpful...

QF are selling LHR-DXB 11/4-22/6 and November, PE for £684. Book by April 19.

:D! Apr 11, 2016 7:57 am


Originally Posted by creampuff (Post 26468578)
Cathay Pacific: now having 7 day sale with plenty of PEY fares, including LHR-HKG for <£1000.

Arghghg, just booked with BA, never mind as I'll get more Avios and I don't have time to turn around at DUS (if I wanted J) anyway... but Y is now £414 return...


Originally Posted by Swiss Tony (Post 26468605)
QF are selling LHR-DXB 11/4-22/6 and November, PE for £684. Book by April 19.

And some people may have Amex offers for £100 off £600 on QF, which is even better. When I checked earlier this month it was £6XX for Y

henkybaby Apr 11, 2016 8:00 am

Some OneWorld summer holiday routes to the USA.

WT ex Germany

I know that California is popular in the summer and tickets are often close to £900 if you don't want to fly WOW! or The Cook named Thomas. You may even prefer OneWorld. :) You can fly exDUS with one stop on AA to LAX for £552 in July and August. Some slightly more expensive alternatives are available too.

From TXL you can fly to SFO for £461, but with two stops on the outbound. The inbound routes via LHR.

To Florida your best bet also is to start in Germany, with HAM being cheapest at £353 to TPA.

WTP to US - Germany and DUB

WTP to Florida exDE is available at £895 and slightly higher

For WTP to California the best deal (close by) is PHX (or SFO) at around the £1100 mark. Availability is limited.

DUB-USA for WTP is always a good bet and it seems to work throughout the summer. CA around £1100 and FL can be found around £900 to £1100.

Foltan Apr 11, 2016 8:01 am

Are we including Ex-EU's?

There's fares from CPH/SVG/BGO to the US for £300-360 at the moment, and they're all 'easy' back-to-backs that could be done with children.

But then again, I don't have children so what do I know! :D

EDIT: Just realised these probably don't cover school holidays. Are we just sticking to 'family friendly' deals?

henkybaby Apr 11, 2016 8:10 am


Originally Posted by Foltan (Post 26468636)
Are we including Ex-EU's?

There are no rules. Lets see what people want to find and want to share. At this rate a Wiki is in order soon. :)

I think it is good to note if a fare is available during the summer holiday and if it is 'child friendly' but that doesn't mean we have to limit ourselves to those.

Calum Apr 11, 2016 8:12 am

INV-LHR-DXB return in WTP can be had for £614 on the 789.

ESFLYER95 Apr 11, 2016 8:15 am

LHR-HKG on BA for £399 over the next month so.

creampuff Apr 11, 2016 8:15 am


Originally Posted by stewaran (Post 26468596)
great idea, I would be interested in anything LHR-PER

Went in 2009 for £362 each with SQ. be nice to see it at that price again!

LHR-PER also for sale on CX website (in Y/PEY/J from memory). Not as cheap as your SQ price though.

flashware Apr 11, 2016 8:17 am


Originally Posted by stewaran (Post 26468596)
great idea, I would be interested in anything LHR-PER

Went in 2009 for £362 each with SQ. be nice to see it at that price again!


Originally Posted by ESFLYER95 (Post 26468601)
Email from QF this morning. Perth from £618 in a new sale.

Yes and if you have an AMEX and managed to get the QF offer - there's another £100 off bringing it down to £518.


Originally Posted by :D! (Post 26468609)
Arghghg, just booked with BA, never mind as I'll get more Avios and I don't have time to turn around at DUS (if I wanted J) anyway... but Y is now £414 return...

Don't forget you have 24 hours to cancel the BA booking if you want ^

stewaran Apr 11, 2016 8:19 am


Originally Posted by ESFLYER95 (Post 26468601)
Email from QF this morning. Perth from £618 in a new sale.

Thanks - not sure thats enough to tempt me into 20hr's of a y seat just yet

henkybaby Apr 11, 2016 8:23 am

LHR to Australia in WT

LHR-PER (surprisingly LHR seems to be one of the cheapest starting places) can be had for £594 to £615 on CX.

Norway to Australia & NZ in WTP

There is a surprisingly good WTP offer at £1098 to PER from OSL (BA for the first longhaul, CX or QF after). Also works to SYD, MEL and BNE for £80 more. For around £1280 you can go to AKL in WTP, which is only £300 or so more than an average economy fare.

If you book IST-PER (or SYD/MEL) today on EY you can get it for around £1200 in J. That offer ends today!

henkybaby Apr 11, 2016 8:55 am

Vamos a la Playa

El cheapo fare to Santo Domingo de Guzman on the Dominican Republic with IB, exMAD (non-stop) for £399

MAD-BZE for £438 with one stop in the US.

Same kind of rates for Costa Rica, Panama, Mexico (basically all of Middle America), SJU, STT, STX, etc.

MAD to GRU you can get for £369 and MAD-EZE for £395, or a £100 more over the xmas period. 1 stop in the US.

Unfortunately most (if not all) don't work during xmas holidays but until Nov 30th.

henkybaby Apr 11, 2016 9:09 am

South Africa

PSA (Pisa) to JNB (QR economy) for £327 or to CPT for £361.

Asia from the leaning tower...

SIN/KUL/CGK/HKT etc seem to be reasonably priced at £338 on QR.
BKK will sell for £302
HKG at £383

stewaran Apr 11, 2016 10:40 am


Originally Posted by flashware (Post 26468732)
Yes and if you have an AMEX and managed to get the QF offer - there's another £100 off bringing it down to £518.

I do have an AMEX as well, How do I find out about offers like this £100 off?

flashware Apr 11, 2016 10:44 am


Originally Posted by stewaran (Post 26469428)
I do have an AMEX as well, How do I find out about offers like this £100 off?

- Login to americanexpress.co.uk
- Scroll down
- Click 'Offers tailored to you'

If it's available, then click 'save to card'.

bivinco Apr 11, 2016 2:54 pm

AZ: MIL-SCL in PEY for 777€ R/T

stewaran Apr 12, 2016 10:45 am


Originally Posted by flashware (Post 26469445)
- Login to americanexpress.co.uk
- Scroll down
- Click 'Offers tailored to you'

If it's available, then click 'save to card'.

Sadly not there for me :-(

Perth in Feb half term next year is the aim! so ill be keeping my eyes on this thread

flashware Apr 12, 2016 11:13 am


Originally Posted by stewaran (Post 26474838)
Sadly not there for me :-(

Perth in Feb half term next year is the aim! so ill be keeping my eyes on this thread

Enjoy that heat then...! ex-PER happily living in LON now ;)

That's "peak time" for Australia too, so lower chance of a good sale - but something may crop up.

henkybaby Apr 12, 2016 11:31 am


Originally Posted by stewaran (Post 26474838)
Perth in Feb half term next year is the aim! so ill be keeping my eyes on this thread

What do you consider a 'deal'? Is £730 on BA/QF good enough? A little more guidance would help.

If you book now, you can do EY for £616 ex LHR.

There is also an £1100 WTP on BA/CX exSVG for Feb.

Virazuno Apr 12, 2016 11:38 am

DUB-DEL
WTP
£520 rtn

e.g. https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#se...016-05-19;sc=p

A good fare, given it's widespread availability, ability to stop over in London, cheap changes:


PERMITTED 04APR 16 THROUGH 16JUN 16 ON THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.

ORIGINATING EUROPE -
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
LIMITED TO 2 FREE AND UNLIMITED AT EUR 75.00 EACH.

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 15APR 16.

CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE EUR 180.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.


henkybaby Apr 12, 2016 3:23 pm

Xmas in Asia

Xmas and NYE in HKG? MAD-HKG on QR for £576

Xmas break in Bali? Best fare to Bali exLGW is on CX: £441 More expensive in the exact holiday though. Try QR ex MXP for around £529 to £662.

henkybaby Apr 12, 2016 4:29 pm

QR to Australia for £400/500

Ok, credit where it is due: Europe to Australia as low as £407 on QR. I found it here: http://www.fly4free.com/deal/europe/...just-407-e510/

The links are there as well.

I can see it for below £400....

Also have a look at the QR new routes offer page. All routes exUK. http://www.qatarairways.com/uk/en/of...dden-gems.page

henkybaby Apr 12, 2016 4:39 pm

Getting away from it all in LAS? £346 exFRA

AA will take you there (also in the summer) on quite a few dates.

conklaven Apr 12, 2016 10:00 pm

I booked a WTP TLV-MEM on BA for $1100 Dates were may 3-Sept 30

stewaran Apr 13, 2016 9:42 am


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 26475042)
What do you consider a 'deal'? Is £730 on BA/QF good enough? A little more guidance would help.

If you book now, you can do EY for £616 ex LHR.

There is also an £1100 WTP on BA/CX exSVG for Feb.

Honestly I dont really know at this stage, I was hoping we could get Y for £2000 for the 4 of us, so that is not to far off.

Dragging the wife and kids to SVG so we can fly back again before going to PER is a non-starter.

Thanks for your help, its great to be able to set these realistic expectations of roughly where it will be priced

henkybaby Apr 13, 2016 9:45 am


Originally Posted by stewaran (Post 26479408)
Dragging the wife and kids to SVG so we can fly back again before going to PER is a non-starter.

Then book the EY deal today. ExLHR, 1 transit and only £250 more than your planned (slightly low) budget (assuming your kids are between 2 and 12).

henkybaby Apr 13, 2016 12:15 pm

Summer holiday in JNB (exUK)

Early July, with QR to JNB from BHX for £442.

henkybaby May 1, 2016 3:52 am

Ireland to South Africa £300 in WT, £850 in WTP
 
Took me a while to find this thread back... :)

DUB-JNB/CPT in WTP for between £270 and £300 in Y. source and a kayak search. Have to do a bit of digging but you can find great deals.

£848 if you do WTP, which I also find a good price, if you compare to CW.

bivinco May 8, 2016 3:05 am

Ba bsl/zrh-jfk wtp rt 807chf
 
LH has a new offering for 807CHF in Y+.
BA matched.

WTP for me perfect for GUF use from CH because pretty often excellent prices.

henkybaby May 11, 2016 3:41 pm

How deep threads that not mention J or F can sink...


From Secret Flying:

Fly from Birmingham, Manchester, Edinburgh or London, UK to Adelaide, Australia from only £342 roundtrip with Qatar Airways!!

(May be an OTA Glitch.)

Depart from:
Birmingham: £342
Manchester: £346
Edinburgh: £346
London: £371

Good luck!

henkybaby Jan 21, 2017 2:43 pm

Please discuss the current WTP fares and how best to use them here!

Thank you!

cgtechuk Jan 21, 2017 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 27797565)
Please discuss the current WTP fares and how best to use them here!

Thank you!

Ok i have a few WTP Fares

Dubai - DUB-LHR-DXB-LHR-GLA/EDI/INV/MAN ~£405 or end in LHR for £391 available most of the year
Orlando JER-LGW-MCO-LGW-JER £512 in June and £600 odds rest of year minimum connection times too.

soy Jan 21, 2017 9:14 pm


Originally Posted by cgtechuk (Post 27797693)
Ok i have a few WTP Fares

Dubai - DUB-LHR-DXB-LHR-GLA/EDI/INV/MAN ~£405 or end in LHR for £391 available most of the year
Orlando JER-LGW-MCO-LGW-JER £512 in June and £600 odds rest of year minimum connection times too.

New York at £475 looks good also https://www.google.co.uk/flights/?gl...c=p;a=ONEWORLD

woglet86 Jan 22, 2017 4:13 am


Originally Posted by soy (Post 27798749)

Thanks, tempting deal especially if those jersey legs get 40TPs. Looks like you can also terminate in London for a similar price.


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