Book X to Y in Business then fuel stop then Y to Z in Economy possible?
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Book X to Y in Business then fuel stop then Y to Z in Economy possible?
Is there some rule against being booked in Economy and Business on a flight with the same flight number even though it makes a fuel stop? Searching for X>Z only shows Y availability but X>Y has J and then I'm happy to go Y>Z in Y. This is for a reward booking on a partner airline via BA.com.
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I'm not aware of this being an issue. For example people going to SYD on BA15 often go in different cabins, swapping at SIN, and that's possible with both revenue and redemption tickets. You could be more specific about the sector just in case there is a cabotage (etc) issue.
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Is there some rule against being booked in Economy and Business on a flight with the same flight number even though it makes a fuel stop? Searching for X>Z only shows Y availability but X>Y has J and then I'm happy to go Y>Z in Y. This is for a reward booking on a partner airline via BA.com.
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I'm not aware of this being an issue. For example people going to SYD on BA15 often go in different cabins, swapping at SIN, and that's possible with both revenue and redemption tickets. You could be more specific about the sector just in case there is a cabotage (etc) issue.
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I wasn't more specific because I figured as a question it is valid more generally anyway, but my flight of interest is LA800 from SYD-AKl-SCL. OK on MCT front so hopefully this should be OK. I was told otherwise over the phone by BA but perhaps I just need to speak to a different agent.
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In the past, I have encountered a rule against ticketing for sector 1 A-B "connecting" to sector 2 B-C where it's the same flight and the same cabin in both sectors. At the time, the way around that was to book one of the sectors on the codeshare flight number. (This was during the time of the BA/QF JSA.)
I don't know whether the rule prevents you doing the two sectors in different cabins, but what c-w-s says suggests that this is different and permissible.
Note that if you can book A-B (SCL-AKL in your case) and B-C (AKL-SYD) separately, it's not merely a fuel/technical stop at AKL but a full commercial stop.
I don't know whether the rule prevents you doing the two sectors in different cabins, but what c-w-s says suggests that this is different and permissible.
Note that if you can book A-B (SCL-AKL in your case) and B-C (AKL-SYD) separately, it's not merely a fuel/technical stop at AKL but a full commercial stop.
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I wasn't more specific because I figured as a question it is valid more generally anyway, but my flight of interest is LA800 from SYD-AKl-SCL. OK on MCT front so hopefully this should be OK. I was told otherwise over the phone by BA but perhaps I just need to speak to a different agent.
EDIT: Just noticed my calculations were wrong anyway haha, so it's a lot more than that.
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Aside from the ticketing issue, do through passengers get off the aircraft or stay on? If you would otherwise stay on, is there time for what is effectively a back to back? I use the Caribbean routes a fair bit and I don't think you would have time to get off at UVF and get back on to continue to POS for example, as you would need to go through immigration and security (even with hand luggage only). If you stay on board, you would presumably be a no show, as you didn't go through the gate?
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Just wondering if:
i) some of the replies have this the wrong way round: OP seems to be talking about SYD-AKL-SCL but replies are taking about SCL-AKL-SYD. The J leg is the short one and I'm not sure it's worth the extra cost of two legs, but it depends how it straddles the distance bands.
ii) if the OP is having trouble booking it, it could be availability limitations not obscure rules. You've said SYD-SCL has Y availability but it doesn't necessarily mean AKL-SCL has Y availability, which you can therefore pair with SYD-AKL J.
i) some of the replies have this the wrong way round: OP seems to be talking about SYD-AKL-SCL but replies are taking about SCL-AKL-SYD. The J leg is the short one and I'm not sure it's worth the extra cost of two legs, but it depends how it straddles the distance bands.
ii) if the OP is having trouble booking it, it could be availability limitations not obscure rules. You've said SYD-SCL has Y availability but it doesn't necessarily mean AKL-SCL has Y availability, which you can therefore pair with SYD-AKL J.
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Just wondering if:
i) some of the replies have this the wrong way round: OP seems to be talking about SYD-AKL-SCL but replies are taking about SCL-AKL-SYD. The J leg is the short one and I'm not sure it's worth the extra cost of two legs, but it depends how it straddles the distance bands.
ii) if the OP is having trouble booking it, it could be availability limitations not obscure rules. You've said SYD-SCL has Y availability but it doesn't necessarily mean AKL-SCL has Y availability, which you can therefore pair with SYD-AKL J.
i) some of the replies have this the wrong way round: OP seems to be talking about SYD-AKL-SCL but replies are taking about SCL-AKL-SYD. The J leg is the short one and I'm not sure it's worth the extra cost of two legs, but it depends how it straddles the distance bands.
ii) if the OP is having trouble booking it, it could be availability limitations not obscure rules. You've said SYD-SCL has Y availability but it doesn't necessarily mean AKL-SCL has Y availability, which you can therefore pair with SYD-AKL J.
i) Indeed its SYD-AKL-SCL with J in the short leg. There is no cost difference in this case because its part of a longer RTW itinerary and I'm effectively paying for AKL-SCL in J anyway but can't find availability on suitable dates. Just trying to at least get J up to AKL if I can!
ii) BA.com shows Y and J for SYD-AKL, Y only for AKL-SCL and SYD-SCL. Sounds to me as though the obscure rule re. not allowed Y/J for same flight number was invented by phone agent.