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Physci Jan 23, 2015 1:06 pm

BA don't feature in the world's worst airline meals!
 
Just how the afternoon tea didn't make the list is amazing!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...ine-meals.html

T8191 Jan 23, 2015 1:15 pm

Nice link, Physci ^

Perhaps the DT needs to explore some of the lesser BA offerings, as you suggest. The rankings could shift!

cysyuen Jan 23, 2015 1:16 pm

This is an interesting post.

BA meals are not that bad - the traditional English breakfast on domestic flights are very tasty! The bacon is not overcooked and dry and everything just tastes great!

(In contrast I do not understand why the English breakfast on BA26 are always overcooked - the bacon is extremely hard to chew and the potatoes is like... nothing at all :-/)

hcuk94 Jan 23, 2015 1:44 pm

BA food is fiiiiine. Not world class, but does the job. If you want horrific, I suggest a Ruinair cooked breakfast for a miserable offering at some extortionate price.

As cysyuen says, the cooked breakfast on BA domestic is brilliant. So much so that I time my work flights to GLA for the morning as it's so much of an upgrade from the standard broken biscuits or individually wrapped crisp that one can expect for the rest of the day.

UKtravelbear Jan 23, 2015 2:50 pm

I see the Telegraph have just used the Skytrax 'ratings'

Perhaps they should investigate how they calculate the ratings. Now that would make an interesting article to read.

Worcester Jan 23, 2015 3:03 pm


Originally Posted by UKtravelbear (Post 24222277)
I see the Telegraph have just used the Skytrax 'ratings'

Perhaps they should investigate how they calculate the ratings. Now that would make an interesting article to read.

This week I received emails from 3 different airlines asking me to vote for them on Skytrax, nothing from BA though.

johnwb Jan 24, 2015 6:19 am

On old one, but you really feel for this poor fellow flying Virgin. Still the gold standard in complaint letters.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...nt-letter.html

Globaliser Jan 24, 2015 6:23 am


Originally Posted by johnwb (Post 24225032)
On old one, but you really feel for this poor fellow flying Virgin.

Despite the fact that it was a complete set-up?

It had more in common with those witty fake product reviews that you often see on Amazon.

martyndavid Jan 24, 2015 6:27 am


Originally Posted by Worcester (Post 24222350)
This week I received emails from 3 different airlines asking me to vote for them on Skytrax, nothing from BA though.

I received two emails from Turkish Airlines asking me to vote for them in the Skytrax awards and I'm not even a member of their FF scheme.

flolee Jan 24, 2015 7:04 am

So funny, the first thing i thought was that the "famous" air koryo burger must be found somewhere in that list. And the first thing you see is... Well, the air koryo burger.
But to be honest, the burger does not taste as bad as it looks like (that said, it still has nothing to do with a real buerger). And compared to the meat they serve you during a week in NK, the burger was actually quite tasty.

And about air koryo... Well, i would not rate them that bad. It was like any other lcc, with the one exception that i was way too scared to complain about anything:D

Paren Jan 24, 2015 7:09 am

Actually I think in terms of meals, BA are one of the best (for AVML anyway). In terms of quantity, the Middle East airlines certainly offer more, but in terms of quality, BA do well.

South London Bon Viveur Jan 24, 2015 7:37 am

Hahaha some of them look terrible, although probably don't taste that bad. The Ukraine Airlines fruit salad is my favourite LOL.

The meals are never truly awful on BA, just occasionally a bit uninspiring. And some CE fare could be spruced up. Best meal I ever had was on Jet Airways, but then again like many English blokes I am a bit of a curry fiend at the best of times.

Joely Jan 24, 2015 7:55 am

Clearly the reporter had never encountered the shepherds pie BA serve in WT flying from the U.S. I had it last month from Chicago, 2 inches of powered potato mash with a human hair's width of meat at the bottom.

Geordie405 Jan 24, 2015 8:04 am

In the main, BA's meals are pretty good. Yes, there is always room for improvement but on the whole I rarely have cause to complain. Breakfast in WT+ is the one meal that I would avoid. It is insulting. Afternoon tea isn't too bad - certainly way better than some of the offerings shown in the OP's link :)

hcuk94 Jan 24, 2015 8:13 am


Originally Posted by johnwb (Post 24225032)
On old one, but you really feel for this poor fellow flying Virgin. Still the gold standard in complaint letters.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...nt-letter.html

Not seen this before, very good though.

Unfortunately the author of the letter is a clear victim of the great Virgin scam, as I call it.
People think there's something special about the Virgin brand and Branson when there really isn't - they just have a good marketing team behind them who make sheeple believe they're wonderful.

Virgin could serve sh*t on a plate, but most people wouldn't bat an eyelid as they'd be flying with a company they think is hip, sitting amongst pretty purple LED lighting, and watching a horrendously cheesy safety video that tries (and fails) to be funny...

That's what makes Branson a good businessman. He's not a hero or an inspiration - he's just clever with his marketing and convinces people that he and Virgin are wonderful.

WeAreFlyingHigh Jan 24, 2015 8:24 am

BA is far from offering the world's greatest airline meals but what BA do offer is above average when all airlines are taken into account. Airlines flying domestics within some African countries, and airlines flying to forgotten about countries are perfect examples.

I've been on some smaller airlines where I've had a sandwich with mould on the bread. I have been served orange juice which had a green tinge to it. I've also been given raw chicken once too.

HIDDY Jan 24, 2015 8:25 am

The majority of these meals look like Y meals.
No idea why they insist on serving hot food which consists of the usual meat/chicken, sauce and mashed veg. I'd be quite happy if they only served cold food in Y. It usually looks and tastes better and saves the crew from having to heat it up.

hcuk94 Jan 24, 2015 8:51 am


Originally Posted by HIDDY (Post 24225465)
The majority of these meals look like Y meals.
No idea why they insist on serving hot food which consists of the usual meat/chicken, sauce and mashed veg. I'd be quite happy if they only served cold food in Y. It usually looks and tastes better and saves the crew from having to heat it up.

Brrr no. Even in Y, I'm not a fan of cold food. Proper hot meal for me!

Globaliser Jan 24, 2015 9:25 am


Originally Posted by hcuk94 (Post 24225400)
Unfortunately the author of the letter is a clear victim of the great Virgin scam, as I call it.

No, he wasn't.

The potted summary of the story, AIUI, is that he had no reason to order an Indian vegetarian meal. He ordered one, knowing what he was going to get, for the purpose of being able to write a complaint letter of the kind that the did. As I said, it was a set-up.

I see that Amazon has enough of a sense of humour to list some of the products that people are writing witty fake reivews about.

hcuk94 Jan 24, 2015 9:36 am


Originally Posted by Globaliser (Post 24225723)
No, he wasn't.

The potted summary of the story, AIUI, is that he had no reason to order an Indian vegetarian meal. He ordered one, knowing what he was going to get, for the purpose of being able to write a complaint letter of the kind that the did. As I said, it was a set-up.

I see that Amazon has enough of a sense of humour to list some of the products that people are writing witty fake reivews about.

Ah ok, I missed that!

And hah, love the Amazon link. Not seen that before.
I find there are some amusing reviews on expensive alcohol. Have a look at some of the Dom Perignon vintages and Macallen Whiskies on Amazon - lots of silliness.

Stez Jan 24, 2015 10:15 am


Originally Posted by HIDDY (Post 24225465)
The majority of these meals look like Y meals.
No idea why they insist on serving hot food which consists of the usual meat/chicken, sauce and mashed veg. I'd be quite happy if they only served cold food in Y. It usually looks and tastes better and saves the crew from having to heat it up.

Hot food is a must in long-haul Y. It gets proper cold in the cabin that even the most hardened Geordie would perhaps begin to think about putting thicker t-shirt on.

WeAreFlyingHigh Jan 24, 2015 11:02 am

The problem with airline food is the airlines try to be too creative. They try and recreate everyday meals. Instead airlines should focus on simple meals which can be produced on the cheap. For example:

Breakfast: Weetabix pots, Ready Brek pots, pancakes, and *insert* on toast are all easily prepared on the ground for heating up/cooking in the air.

Lunch: Toasted sandwiches, sandwiches, and soups are easy to do.

Dinner: Bangers and mash, chicken and microwave chips, egg and soldiers, spaghetti bolognese, frittatas, stir fry, and cheesy bakes.

hcuk94 Jan 24, 2015 11:15 am


Originally Posted by WeAreFlyingHigh (Post 24226165)
The problem with airline food is the airlines try to be too creative. They try and recreate everyday meals. Instead airlines should focus on simple meals which can be produced on the cheap. For example:

Breakfast: Weetabix pots, Ready Brek pots, pancakes, and *insert* on toast are all easily prepared on the ground for heating up/cooking in the air.

Lunch: Toasted sandwiches, sandwiches, and soups are easy to do.

Dinner: Bangers and mash, chicken and microwave chips, egg and soldiers, spaghetti bolognese, frittatas, stir fry, and cheesy bakes.

I'm sure many on here will call me a pleb, and admittedly it probably wouldn't really fit with BA's desired image - but I'd actually be delighted to be presented with a large portion of chicken & chips on my next flight :p

edinburghgirl Jan 24, 2015 11:31 am

the worst airline meal i've had was several years ago on malaysian business class.described on the menu as chicken pie and that is exactly what it was : a thick heavy porkpie style pastry filled with what looked like about a pound of cooked chicken,no sauce no veg no nothing apart from this gigantic pie.it was as dry as a bone but we were starving and it was all that was available so we gave it a go but had to give up about halfway through.if youve ever played that game where you try to eat 3 dry cream crackers youll get a sense of how we felt

T8191 Jan 24, 2015 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by edinburghgirl (Post 24226283)
the worst airline meal i've had was several years ago on malaysian business class.described on the menu as chicken pie and that is exactly what it was : a thick heavy porkpie style pastry filled with what looked like about a pound of cooked chicken,no sauce no veg no nothing apart from this gigantic pie.it was as dry as a bone but we were starving and it was all that was available so we gave it a go but had to give up about halfway through.if youve ever played that game where you try to eat 3 dry cream crackers youll get a sense of how we felt

I suspect BA isn't too good at doing decent Malaysian food either :D

Every airline shoukd stick to its cultural roots, or at least get caterers that can do a decent approximation. Coukd you imagine MS contracting Gregg's for their pies?

Oaxaca Jan 24, 2015 1:15 pm

Actually had a pretty decent dish of noodles and pork belly on BA from MAD-LHR in CE yesterday. The CC serving was also Asian, for a second I could have closed my eyes and thought I was on CX.

Then I moved slightly, my knees whacked into the seat in front in new CE on a 320, some Monopole came into view and I remembered where I was...Still a tasty enough dish though, credit where it's due.

msian56 Jan 24, 2015 2:20 pm

BA's a hit and a miss for me so as MH. Though can't compete with the Middle Eastern giants in Y. Garuda is surprisingly good too the last time I flew with them. Flew a few times with Croatian and the food was horrible. Would rather eat McDonalds ;)

HMPS Jan 24, 2015 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by Worcester (Post 24222350)
This week I received emails from 3 different airlines asking me to vote for them on Skytrax, nothing from BA though.

is that because they know where they stand !


Originally Posted by johnwb (Post 24225032)
On old one, but you really feel for this poor fellow flying Virgin. Still the gold standard in complaint letters.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...nt-letter.html

Here we go again ! Why not compare oneself to the one above / better tan self ?
The pic from OP looks like a meal served because the flt said " meal" ?

TPJ Jan 24, 2015 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by hcuk94 (Post 24221895)
BA food is fiiiiine. Not world class, but does the job.

To be honest my OS food on a 30 minute C-class VIE-MUC flight was MUCH better than my BA CE Band 3b ARN-LHR Afternoon Tea... And of course TK beats everyone - on a 50 minute C-class IST-ATH flight they serve an appetizer and then a hot main course (3 to choose from).

HMPS Jan 24, 2015 8:48 pm


Originally Posted by WeAreFlyingHigh (Post 24226165)
The problem with airline food is the airlines try to be too creative. They try and recreate everyday meals. Instead airlines should focus on simple meals which can be produced on the cheap. For example:

Breakfast: Weetabix pots, Ready Brek pots, pancakes, and *insert* on toast are all easily prepared on the ground for heating up/cooking in the air.

Lunch: Toasted sandwiches, sandwiches, and soups are easy to do.

Dinner: Bangers and mash, chicken and microwave chips, egg and soldiers, spaghetti bolognese, frittatas, stir fry, and cheesy bakes.

But then BA will totally surrender a modicum of a premier airlines to the likes of Gulf and some other national airlines !


Originally Posted by T8191 (Post 24226522)
I suspect BA isn't too good at doing decent Malaysian food either :D

Every airline shoukd stick to its cultural roots, or at least get caterers that can do a decent approximation. Coukd you imagine MS contracting Gregg's for their pies?

Understand what you are saying....but today travel is global, all kinds of people fly several brands. For example BA gets a lot of pax to and from India. They have to step up to their preferences, predominantly vegetarian and spicy. Gulf carriers do a fantastic job on this as does SQ or CX.

BTW American carriers do not even have it as a choice on domestic or long haul except when they are flying into and out of India. UA comes to mind.

RBH58 Jan 25, 2015 1:26 am

Powdered egg omlette...so overcooked that it had turned green for breakfast in Etihad J Class. In fact food so inedible on MEL>AUH>IST that I basically didn't eat for 20 hrs and ate a big meal in the lounge in the return flight

tmac100 Jan 25, 2015 2:51 am


Originally Posted by hcuk94 (Post 24221895)
BA food is fiiiiine. Not world class, but does the job. If you want horrific, I suggest a Ruinair cooked breakfast for a miserable offering at some extortionate price.

As cysyuen says, the cooked breakfast on BA domestic is brilliant. So much so that I time my work flights to GLA for the morning as it's so much of an upgrade from the standard broken biscuits or individually wrapped crisp that one can expect for the rest of the day.

I have flown BA since 2009 and in that time have flown a LOT of flights that were over 6 hours. My 3600+ TP accumulation since June 2009 may give an idea of how much I fly strictly for pleasure.

That said, with most flights in WT+ I have honestly NEVER, EVER had a bad meal. EVER. But, YMMV :rolleyes:

hcuk94 Jan 25, 2015 3:14 am


Originally Posted by tmac100 (Post 24229349)
I have flown BA since 2009 and in that time have flown a LOT of flights that were over 6 hours. My 3600+ TP accumulation since June 2009 may give an idea of how much I fly strictly for pleasure.

That said, with most flights in WT+ I have honestly NEVER, EVER had a bad meal. EVER. But, YMMV :rolleyes:

Me neither. I don't think it's up to the standards of some of the top airlines, but it's not bad. That's mostly based on my experience of many short hops in Club Europe, though.

kwsunset Jan 25, 2015 2:36 pm

I wonder why no USA airlines are not on the list. Well, for two reasons. 1. They don't serve food on most flights and 2. Nobody really took a look at what we get for food. Yesterday on United Bus Class at noon we got a scone, well they called it that. Actually it was a sweet cookie. Our US airlines serve awful food and most of US bring our own onto the flight. The FA are jealous that we have such good food. Every flight in Western Europe that I have been on serves decent food on everything over an hour. In the US we are told the flight is too short--no food and no drinks in Y. My favs are Turkish, Lot, and sometimes Air France. I have none in the US. United starts a new menu Feb 1. We'll see how that goes.

HMPS Jan 25, 2015 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by kwsunset (Post 24232183)
I wonder why no USA airlines are not on the list. Well, for two reasons. 1. They don't serve food on most flights and 2. Nobody really took a look at what we get for food. Yesterday on United Bus Class at noon we got a scone, well they called it that. Actually it was a sweet cookie. Our US airlines serve awful food and most of US bring our own onto the flight. The FA are jealous that we have such good food. Every flight in Western Europe that I have been on serves decent food on everything over an hour. In the US we are told the flight is too short--no food and no drinks in Y. My favs are Turkish, Lot, and sometimes Air France. I have none in the US. United starts a new menu Feb 1. We'll see how that goes.

Do not have much experience of flying the Western European airlines you speak off. I have seen many other airlines in different parts of the world go to the US style of Buy on Board. Once a couple of big dogs discontinue serving free food, others will follow the Enhancement, less expense, more profit thru savings and sales, more efficient service !
I think it was Delta in USA that figured out no one eats the whole leaf of lettuce, discarded it and at that time saved $4000 a year.

Joely Jan 25, 2015 5:18 pm

I flew LHR-HND yesterday on JAL in W (which serves the same meals as Y) and while BA may not be the worst they are clearly nowhere near the best, the food yesterday was really good and plentiful. Japanese food is generally amazing of course but still for economy airline food this was amazing.

GSTBK Jan 25, 2015 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by HMPS (Post 24232808)
Do not have much experience of flying the Western European airlines you speak off. I have seen many other airlines in different parts of the world go to the US style of Buy on Board. Once a couple of big dogs discontinue serving free food, others will follow the Enhancement, less expense, more profit thru savings and sales, more efficient service !
I think it was Delta in USA that figured out no one eats the whole leaf of lettuce, discarded it and at that time saved $4000 a year.

I think there was also something similar regarding the number of olives in a salad. Some eager eyed accountant saw that by reducing the number of olives by X, a saving of so many thousands a year could be made.

flolee Jan 26, 2015 12:39 am

hehe, i just found my picture of the said air koryo burger... as said previously, it didn't taste that bad.

http://i61.tinypic.com/358t4sk.jpg

HMPS Jan 26, 2015 11:07 am


Originally Posted by flolee (Post 24234425)
hehe, i just found my picture of the said air koryo burger... as said previously, it didn't taste that bad.

http://i61.tinypic.com/358t4sk.jpg

At least I can see a leaf of lettuce there ? :)

A sad day if BA and Air Koryo serve similar meals.

MSPeconomist Jan 26, 2015 2:39 pm

IIRC a year or two ago there were reports of Saudia serving donkey in business class.


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