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Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:14 pm

Ex-Mainland Europe Travel Planning Guide
 
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i Preface
The Ambassador team has creating this guide in response to the often asked questions that arise whenever we plan our travels originating from Mainland Europe. As you can see it is still a work in progress but we feel there is sufficient meat to the bones to launch the thread. So please bear with us while we work on the remaining chapters - these are displayed in grey in the list of contents immediately below.

If you'd like to add your own experience or wisdom, your contribution would be most welcome.

ii Contents
iii Acknowledgments
This guide is a collaborative effort, and could not have been produced without the kind contributions from BahrainLad, corporate-wage-slave, Dave_C, dunk, DWFI, Lucanesque, and stifle. Additional thanks are due to dnw, pauldb, and Raffles for paving the way, and of course to everyone who has contributed on this subject in the BA forum.

iv Related threads

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:22 pm

Introduction
 
This short guide is based on what was written by dnw who many year ago pioneered the use of ‘ex-LIS’ fares (i.e. fares which began by flying from Lisbon) on the BA Board. The ex-LIS deals themselves have now ceased to be so attractive but the principle remains and does apply to other European cities. Thanks to a tool originally posted by pauldb and a process honed by Raffles, this guide should still explain everything you need to try and take advantage of this (perfectly legitimate) approach to getting cheaper premium travel.

What's all this about cheap BA premium fares from Europe?
The worst kept secret on the BA board…if you want to save thousands (literally!) on J (Club World) and F (First) travel on BA to a number of destinations just by doing a quick roundtrip to somewhere in Europe first, read on…

Although this guide will often use AMS as an example, by virtue of it's connectivity to UK regional airports and across Continental Europe, the principle applies to many other cities. At present, the cheapest starting point for an ex-EU trip is often Milan or Amsterdam – but where you see the word AMS here, substitute wherever is currently cheapest. You’ll learn where to find the cheapest point later.

Whilst currency fluctuations between GBP and the Euro can diminish the general savings to be made from starting on the Continent, BA still offers some very good deals to those starting from European destinations when travelling long haul – primarily to entice them away from more direct options.

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:23 pm

Advantages and potential pitfalls
 
What is the catch?
There isn't one! Instead of paying, say, £3000 for a semi-flexible Club World ticket LHR-LAX-LHR, you can buy one for less than £1,500 if you start your journey in AMS instead of LHR. Of course the cheapest fares are I class Club World fares which are generally available during BA sales, so it pays to check the forum for active Continental Europe sales and promotions. You simply need to buy a cheap one-way ticket to AMS first. You can also, for a fee, build in a stopover in London – so you could, for example, fly to AMS for a weekend break in August (using the first leg of your LAX ticket for the return) and then do the LHR-LAX leg in September.

The only catch is that you MUST MUST MUST start your journey in AMS! You CANNOT discard the AMS segment and just turn up for the longhaul at LHR. If you skip the first segment of your ticket BA will automatically invalidate your entire trip (and don’t go crying for a refund either, this is just one of the rules!)

However, you don't need to take the final segment back to AMS if you don’t want to. If you are on a J ticket (where stopovers are chargeable) and are worried about BA wanting to check your bags all the way through to AMS and you’re coming off a longhaul flight at LHR, then book your return segment back from LGW instead. In these cases, the LHR/LGW transit means they CAN'T through check your bags. Booking the last leg ex-LGW will make the ticket slightly cheaper as the airport service charges are slightly lower than LHR. Conversely, booking the last leg ex-LCY will make the ticket slightly more expensive. If you cannot book your last leg from the ‘other’ airport, you may want to book it for the next day (but less than 24 hours from arrival, so it is not treated as a stopover). This gives you far more leverage with BA if check-in at, say, LAX try to insist – incorrectly - that you must check your bag to your final destination.

That said, BA do appear to audit the use of tickets, and may get in touch if you’re doing this a lot. Once or twice in a while should be fine, but if you plan on doing this frequently then you may wish to use all sectors in your ticket (if nothing else to start your next trip off!).

If you are on an F ticket then a neat trick is to take advantage of the free stopovers and book your final LHR-AMS segment a long time in the future – you can then use this to get down to AMS to start your next trip!

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:23 pm

Turn-around points in Europe
 
The posts below provide some guidance as to what you can expect when arriving and turning around at a selection of Continental European airports. Whilst neither Edinburgh and Glasgow offer cost effective starting points they have been included since many of us ask about the ease of using these airports as turn-arounds. Newcastle, Manchester, Aberdeen and Belfast are the same as Edinburgh and Glasgow. Leeds/Bradford and Isle of Man are out through normal exit and back in through security, but 10 minutes will cover.
If there are any airports not covered but you think ought to be, please post your own recommendations along with any useful logistical guidance. We can add these as we go. For more information, see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ations-13.html

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:25 pm

AMS Amsterdam Schiphol
 
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Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: free session capped at 60 minutes.
  • Toilets: main concourse and others accessible from with the Schengen gate cluster.
  • Smoking: designated smoking area within Murphy's Bar near Gate D10. The walk alone is about 8 minutes there and back.
  • Food/beverage/book shop: main concourse, so its a long walk (12 min there and back)
  • British Airways Lounge (Lounge 40): as its a good 20 minutes walk to the lounge and back, visiting the lounge is not advisable if you're doing an immediate turn-around.
  • Terminal map [flash]

Variables
  • While BA flights usually use Gates D26-D31, other D gates are occasionally used.

FT back to back turn-around rating: Excellent
FT airside transfer rating: Good if non-Schengen, Reasonable if Schengen
FT landside transfer rating: Poor

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:27 pm

ARN Stockholm Arlanda Terminal 2
 
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There is much quicker option. The arrival gates at ARN have a direct door for back to backs. Just as you come off the aircraft there is a glass door and buzzer which allows you back into the boarding area, bypassing security and passports. While this option reduces the transfer to 5 minutes, you miss the lounge experience which is between security and passports.

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: complimentary service
  • Toilets: before passport control and several clusters located off the main concourse at Gates 62, 64, 68, and upstairs next to the smoking area
  • Smoking: designated smoking area upstairs above Starbucks
  • Menzies Aviation lounge located on the upper level
  • Terminal map

FT back to back turn-around rating: Excellent
FT airside transfer rating: Good
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable (arriving pax should watch for sign to gates 70-82)

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:28 pm

ATH Athens
 
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Very easy to do a turn around there, however you do need to be prepared with your return boarding pass.

When you arrive on stand, you'll be on a jet-bridge, off the aircraft and down an escalator. Turn right at the bottom of the escalator and follow everyone towards to the end of the corridor, perhaps another 50m of walking. At the end, normal arrivals will turn left, however as a connecting passenger you need to turn right. You then need to turn right again, and there is an immigration and boarding pass check. The police officer will ask where you're travelling to, just say London, show your boarding pass, and then you'll be told to head back up the escalator which will take you into the departure lounge. All of the shops and the BA lounge are outside of security, so within ten minutes of landing, you can be back in the lounge. They call boarding in the lounge, but it can get busy so might want to go a few minutes earlier.

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:29 pm

BCN Barcelona Terminal 1
 
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Dedicated security and passport check for transit passenger to both sides of the main passport check for exiting passengers. 20 minutes, mainly due to the length of the walkways rather than any queues

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: 15 mins free Kubi Wireless service
  • Toilets: there is no shortage of public toilets
  • Sala Miró located on Level 2 below Gate D21
  • Terminal map

FT back to back turn-around rating: Good
FT airside transfer rating: Good if non-Schengen, Reasonable if Schengen
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:29 pm

BGO Bergen
 
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Arrivals decant into departure hall. Fool proof although flight timetable is slim (2 flights daily)

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: free session capped at 120 minutes.
  • Toilets: main concourse near departure gates.
  • Food/beverage/book shop: Duty free, Simply Good cafe, and Pronto Pronto newsstand located in the international gate area

FT back to back turn-around rating: Excellent
FT airside transfer rating: Excellent
FT landside transfer rating: Excellent

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:31 pm

BRU Brussels
 
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No passports, but security (with fast track) and a long passageway to get to it. 30 minutes is conservative. BA lounge 5 minutes and close to usual boarding gate airside.

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: 30 mins free
  • Toilets: several locations
  • BA Galleries Club located above Gate B30
  • Terminal map

Variables
  • For anyone attempting BRU and seeking some comfort, there seems to be a preference for BA flights to use B04, which is the closest gate to security/start of the pier, but subject to the occasional use of coaches/remote gates


FT back to back turn-around rating: Good
FT airside transfer rating: Reasonable
FT landside transfer rating: Poor

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:33 pm

DUB Dublin Terminal 1
 
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Transfer channel, go up the stairs next to baggage belt 2.

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: complimentary service (Dublin Airport Free WiFi or eircom)
  • Toilets: in the baggage hall and elsewhere around the airport
  • DAA Executive Lounge at the upper level towards Pier C. Turn left after security and go up the stairs or lift

FT back to back turn-around rating: Good
FT airside transfer rating: Good if Common Travel Area, otherwise Reasonable
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:34 pm

DUS Dusseldorf
 
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With recent reports of BA flights using remote stands (Summer 2015) and consequently coaching to/from the aircraft combined with a risk of congestion at Border Control, the back to back rating has been adjusted from Excellent to Poor. See kt74's post here

FT back to back turn-around rating: Poor
FT airside transfer rating: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen
FT landside transfer rating: Good

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:39 pm

EDI Edinburgh
 
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Exit the airbridge. Take a seat. Then re-board. It really is that simple

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: complimentary service
  • Toilets: opposite Gate 4 and Gate 13 (entrance behind the pub)
  • Food/beverages/book shop: multiple options
  • British Airways Lounge: 3 minutes to/from the gate
  • Terminal map

Variables
  • Early boarding on your flight up to EDI is recommended to ensure your hand luggage does not get gate checked.
  • Occasionally you land on a remote stand which involves deplaning by steps being funnelled straight into baggage reclaim. In which case you need to reclear security, adding approx 15 minutes to the turnaround.

FT back to back turn-around rating: Excellent
FT airside transfer rating: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable to Poor
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable to Poor

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:41 pm

FRA Frankfurt Terminal 2
 
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Security check only, risk of bus transfer, no passports. Can be 10 minutes (airbridge and good security); can be 30 minutes (bus and lousy security). Fast track security but often useless.

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: 30 min free Fraport service.
  • Toilets: Various locations along the route, including after security
  • Food/beverages/book shop: No refreshments after security. Multiple options before security
  • JL Sakura Lounge: 5 minutes from security and close to arriving gate and does not add much extra time on back to backs
  • Terminal map

Variables
  • For FRA, the nightstopper is always a bus gate
  • BA902/903 912/913 usually gets an airbridge
  • LCY is always a bus gate

FT back to back turn-around rating: Poor
FT airside transfer rating: Poor, particularly coming off Schengen
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:46 pm

GLA Glasgow
 
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Like EDI, exit the airbridge. Take a seat. Then re-board.

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: complimentary service.
  • Toilets: at Gate 24
  • Food/beverages/book shop: Cafe and WHSmith
  • British Airways Lounge: 3 minutes to/from gates
  • Terminal map

Variables
  • Early boarding on your flight up to GLA is recommended to ensure your hand luggage does not get gate checked. Its a long winding trek from the gate to baggage reclaim and you'll need to clear security on the way back to the gate.

FT back to back turn-around rating: Excellent
FT airside transfer rating: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable to Poor
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:53 pm

GVA Geneva
 
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Terminal facilities
FT back to back turn-around rating: Excellent
FT airside transfer rating: Good
FT landside transfer rating: Good, but can be Poor during ski season

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:55 pm

HAM Hamburg
 
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Like AMS, turnarounds at HAM are pain free - no security checks and no passport control. BA uses Gates B20 to B32 located on a pier connected to the main terminal. However BA does occasionally use a gate outside this area. There is a poorly signposted transfer route to airside. Most of the terminal amenities are located in the Schengen gate area and while these are accessible, it does involve passport control in both directions. If going landside allow 20 minutes to return to airside.

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: free service provided by BBG Global AG
  • Toilets: WCs are present at several points along the route, and within the non-Schengen gate area
  • Smoking: Lucky Strike lounge in the Schengen gate area near Gate A20
  • Food/beverages/book shop: very little on offer in the gate area itself (one bar) but there are restaurants and shops in the adjacent Schengen area.
  • Lounge: BA's designated lounge is 8 minutes away above Gate A19 after security but before passports, so going to the lounge means two passport checks
  • Terminal map

FT back to back turn-around rating: Excellent
FT airside transfer rating: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:56 pm

HEL Helsinki
 
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No passport control or security. Most of the time its a gate arrival (risk of coaching from a Schengen stand to an international gate)

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: free wifi terminal wide
  • Toilets: WCs are present at several points along the length of the terminal and inside both Finnair lounges
  • Smoking: designated smoking area by gate 36
  • Finnair Non-Schengen Lounge & Finnair Non-Schengen Premium Lounge between gates 36 & 37
  • [URL="https://www.finavia.fi/en/helsinki-airport/map/[/URL]

FT back to back turn-around rating: Excellent to Good
FT airside transfer rating: Excellent to Good
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:56 pm

IST Istanbul Ataturk
 
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Security only, but relatively fast. 30 minutes. Millennium lounge (BA's contract lounge) is en route. Note long turn around times. Also ensure you follow signs for flight connections, going landside may require you to get a visa.

Terminal facilities
Variables
Risk of remote stand/bus transfer to/from Gates 501-504. These gates are a good 15 min walk from the Millennium lounge

FT back to back turn-around rating: Good
FT airside transfer rating: Good
FT landside transfer rating: Poor. You may need to buy a visa

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 1:59 pm

LIN Milan Linate
 
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Its always a bus gate, so its important to position yourself on the bus to get off first. Once you get off the bus, there's a passport check. You then walk through into the baggage reclaim hall; continue walking straight on, with the baggage belts to your right. The exit will be at the end on the left. Once you exit the secure area into the arrivals hall, there are some steps immediately on your right which will take you up a level to get into the checkin area. Continue walking straight onwards to get to the BA checkin area - security is to the right. There's a fast track security for Club / Gold / Silver passengers. Once through security, you'll be deposited into a shop. Walk through the airport down the stairs and you'll find the lounge. Once through the outbound passport check, you'll be at the gate, where you can get on the bus back to the aircraft.

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: several services available, all require payment/subscription. Tariffs start at €2.90 for 30 minutes
  • Toilets: WCs are present at several points along the route, and within the non-Schengen gate area
  • Food/beverages/book shop: none in the non-Schengen gate area. All essential items will need to be purchased in the departure lounge before passport control
  • Galleries Club: the lounge is before the outbound passport check, so depending on how busy the flight is, and if there are any further non-Schengen flights departing at the same time, you may have to go straight into the passport queue. Once through the outbound passport check, you'll be at the gate, where you can get on the bus back to the aircraft. Wifi vouchers obtained in the lounge work throughout the airport. If you log out properly your minutes will be saved for your next time at the airport.
  • Terminal map

FT back to back turn-around rating: Good
FT airside transfer rating: Good
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable to Poor (bus gates)

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 2:00 pm

LUX Luxembourg Terminal A
 
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Full exit and re-entry required, there is a flight connection route but it is generally closed. Passports, security, passports However small airport and fast processing means safely do able in 30 minutes.

Terminal facilities
FT back to back turn-around rating: Good
FT airside transfer rating: Good
FT landside transfer rating: Good

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 2:02 pm

MAD Madrid Barajas Terminal 4S
 
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Turnarounds on BA operated aircraft are pain free - no security checks and no passport control. Once you exit the air bridge follow the signs up to the mezzanine and towards flight connections. From there you enter the main departure area. You're visit to Madrid in the cozy confines of Barajas Terminal 4 Satellite.

Do not attempt to go landside. It is a long distance and can easily take over 30 minutes to return.

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: Service provided by Kubi Wireless. First 15mins are free
  • Toilets: WCs are present at several points along the length of the terminal
  • Smoking: There used to be designated smoking booths dotted throughout the terminal.
  • Food/beverages/book shop: larger shops and restaurants are in the satellite's central section - there are several Relay and coffee outlets located along the length of the terminal.
  • Lounge: Iberia's impressive Sala Velázquez is below the transfer area discretely tucked behind the retail stores
  • Terminal map

FT back to back turn-around rating: Excellent
FT airside transfer rating: Good to Reasonable depending on arriving terminal
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 2:03 pm

MXP Milan Malpensa
 
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Security check only (dedicated and often idle flight connections security). 10 minutes to get there, 10 minutes to get back to gate, 20 minutes in all. BA lounge near security check. No passports.

Terminal facilities
Note:
There are often long turnaround times at MXP

FT back to back turn-around rating: Good
FT airside transfer rating: Good
FT landside transfer rating: Good

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 2:03 pm

OSL Oslo
 
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Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: free session capped at 120 minutes.
  • Toilets: main concourse near departure gates.
  • Food/beverage/book shop: News Bar and Kiosk in the Gate 50-59 zone
  • OSL Lounge: enroute between security and passport control, located near Gate 39 above duty free
  • Terminal map [pdf]

Variables
Two sets of passport control - at arrivals and again enroute to the departure gate. See here for more information

FT back to back turn-around rating: Reasonable
FT airside transfer rating: Reasonable
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 2:05 pm

RTM Rotterdam The Hague
 
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Full exit and re-entry required, however it is a small airport. So that's bus, passports, security and then passports, finally bus. Do-able in 30 minutes. There are a few other non Schengen flights (notably one to Turkey). If that gets in just before the BA service, the queue for passports into RTM can be bad. So a bit of a risk. Passports outbound no risk at all, security - there is fast track and that's generally good.

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: complimentary service
  • Toilets: WCs are present landside and airside
  • Smoking: designated smoking area accessible from the departure lounge, upstairs out on the terrace.
  • Food/beverages/book shop: one café, one newsagent, and one duty free shop in the gate area.
  • No lounge. If you're travelling in CE or as a GCH/SCH you can collect a voucher from the check-in desk. The voucher can be exchanged for 3 F&B items from the café

FT back to back turn-around rating: Good
FT airside transfer rating: Good
FT landside transfer rating: Good. Reasonable during morning/evening peaks

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 2:05 pm

SVG Stavanger
 
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Arrivals decant into departure hall. Fool proof although flight timetable is slim (Note: there is a single daily service between LHR and SVG)

Terminal facilities
  • Wifi: free session capped at 120 minutes.
  • Toilets: main concourse near departure gates.
  • Food/beverage/book shop: Duty free and Newsbar café located in the international gate area

FT back to back turn-around rating: Excellent
FT airside transfer rating: Excellent
FT landside transfer rating: Excellent

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 2:06 pm

TXL Berlin Tegel
 
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There is security and passport control at the gate, and normally boarding will continue until all passengers have been processed. Sometimes staff will invite you to use a nearby gate to speed up processing.

Terminal facilities
Terminal A is hexagonal in plan and the concourse forms a continuous loop
  • Wifi: several services available, all require payment/subscription
  • Toilets: WCs are present at every other gate
  • Smoking: outdoors - follow signs for Boulevard Tegel
  • Food/beverages/book shop: there are small concessions located around the loop with larger restaurants (Burger King) at Boulevard Tegel
  • Terraces Lounge: from Gate A05 follow the loop clockwise and continue through Boulevard Tegel. The lounge is upstairs. If you arrive at a higher number gate (A06+) the quickest route to the lounge is in an anti-clockwise direction.
  • Terminal map

FT back to back turn-around rating: Good
FT airside transfer rating: Good
FT landside transfer rating: Good. All security is at gates

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 2:07 pm

WAW Warsaw
 
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Security only, special route upstairs with few other passengers, less than 10 minutes. (Note this is different for arrivals from other Polish airports, when there would be passports but no security, 15 minutes due to the length of the airport).

Terminal facilities
The usual facilities are available once you reach the non-Schengen gate area
  • Wifi: free wifi terminal wide
  • Toilets: WCs are present on the transfer mezzanine and near the gate area
  • Smoking: designated smoking area inside the gate area, downstairs next to the Bolero lounge
  • Food/beverages/book shop: a couple of cafés and shops in the gate area. Duty free is downstairs opposite the Bolero lounge.
  • Bolero Lounge: beneath the gate area. Stair well is located between Gates 20 and 21.
  • Terminal map [flash]

FT back to back turn-around rating: Good
FT airside transfer rating: Good
FT landside transfer rating: Reasonable

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 2:11 pm

Working with ticket rules
 
What are the rules and restrictions?
Cancellation penalties and stopover fees change from fare to fare and from country to country, although stopovers are usually Euro 200 each-way if you break your journey in London for > 24 hours. Also remember you need to factor in the cost of getting to your point of departure, and potentially the cost of a hotel if you are travelling too far to return in a day (e.g. Cyprus, Athens). whichbudget.com lists budget airlines flying to all major cities, and www.skyscanner.net may also be useful.

In general, you will see the rules are much more flexible for the equivalent fare bucket ex-UK.
First fares:
  • Unlimited free changes
  • Unlimited free stopovers*
  • No cancellation penalty
  • Return within 12 months

Club World fares
Again, taking the current ex-AMS I7SALE fares, the rules are:
  • Changes charged at €300 each
  • Stopovers not permitted
  • Cancellation penalty - net fare plus carrier imposed charges
  • Return within 12 months

*A stopover is a transit of an intermediate point that exceeds 24hrs.
A neat trick for the Club fares – if you time your arrival into London and the departure of your long haul segment right, you can essentially have a free nightstop in London without having an 'official' stopover. For example, you arrive from AMS on a Monday at 21:15 and you can then book your long haul flight the next day (Tuesday) at any time up to 21:14 (< 24hrs) and it is NOT charged as a stopover. Book it for 21:15 or later and that'll be much more expensive fare please. Similarly, you can introduce overnight stays at intermediate connecting cities so long as your connections remain under 24 hours.

Note: BA seem to have clamped down on stopover rules, potentially in light of more widespread use of ex-EU fares. Check your fare rules carefully as lots of fares now limit you to a month’s stopover in the UK at most in either direction.

Prospero Dec 27, 2013 2:11 pm

ITA matrix and working examples
 
How much/when/where?
Following the steps below (idiot-proofed by FTers for some years now!) to find the cheapest starting point for your trip.

(1) Go to http://matrix.itasoftware.com

(2) Complete "From" as
AMS;ARN;ATH;BRU;BUD;CAI;CPH;FRA;HEL;IST;LCA;LIN;LI S;PAR;VIE;WAW :: BA+
For completeness, you may want to do a second search on the rest of the EU and potential EU member states:
DUB;DUS;HAM;LUX;MAD;OSL;OTP;PRG;RTM;SOF;ZAG :: BA+
Do also bear in mind that some of the airports there are quite far way from London (e.g. ATH, CAI, IST, HEL) and you may not want to have the hassle of such a long flight to begin your journey. If so, you can come up with your own list based on the above with airports (or others) that suit you best personally.
(3) Complete "To" as:
YYY :: BA+

Where YYY is your destination - if you don't know the airport code, you can use FlyerTalk's own Airport Code Look-up tool
(4) Enter rough dates which suit you and LON as "sales city" to get GBP prices

(5) Click "More Options", change cabin to "Business" or "First" and uncheck "Check seat availability"
This will bring up the cheapest listed fare for the route on that day, although it does not necessarily mean that tickets will still be available at that price. You can use dnw's method below to find days with actual I (Club) or A (First) availability. You can also use a tool such as www.expertflyer.com or KVS, though these are not free.

If you're looking for WT+ pricing (e.g. to Upgrade Using Avios), set the cabin as "Cheapest" and add " / F BC=T" to the "From" and "To" lines. The results will say "Coach", but it will be a WT+ T class fare. You will need to delete a couple of cities from the list to fit in the extra bit of text.

When comparing WT+ prices for potential UuAs, don't forget that the cost of UuAs vary depending on the individual flight distance. You should factor in the worth of the extra Avios needed when considering which fare offers best value.
(6) Click "Go". Scroll down the results if you don't fancy the first options (usually TIP/CAI/IST) or just delete them in the first place.


Refine, rinse, and repeat as necessary
Note that you may need to click on 'Cost' to reorder your results in price order, as the default is to list CAI flights first as they offer Club and First on all legs, not just the longhaul one. If searching for First flights, be careful as it sometimes lists itineraries where only one longhaul leg is in F and the return is in J.

Now that you know what the cheapest fare is, you need to find days on which it is available. In order to get a special fare you need availability in the following booking classes on your required flights. Again, taking AMS as an example:

AMS-LHR segment R-class (sometimes D on First fares but we'll say R to be safe)
LHR-<DEST>R-class for Club, A-class for First

You can use expertflyer.com to check availability by I/A code. Once you have found the right flights you can put them in to the ba.com site with your departure location set as Netherlands and it should price it up perfectly. Also note that the ‘feeder’ flights more regularly tend to book in J class now – this is better since J is nearly always available, meaning less ‘hunting’ for availability on your part.


Working example
So, let's put this into practice using the ITA Matrix to search for the cheapest flights between AMS, BRU, and CDG as potential origins and LAX/HNL as potential destinations.

Step 1: Searching for flights and fares
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Step 2: Reviewing the calendar results
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Step 3: Choosing your flights
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Step 4: Reviewing the itinerary details and fare construction
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Step 5: Reviewing the fare rules
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Fare rules & restrictions
British Airways p.l.c. BA I7SALE AMS to LAX
General notes

2ND LEVEL BUSINESS ADV. PURCHASE FARES    I
Between AREA 2 and AREA 1 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES

Seasonal restrictions

  PERMITTED 10JAN 14 THROUGH 11APR 14 OR 28APR 14 THROUGH
  15JUN 14 ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.

Flight restrictions

  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        BA FLIGHTS 7005 THROUGH 7049.
  AND
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        AA FLIGHTS 7863 THROUGH 7949.
  AND
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
        AS FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 1999
        AS FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3274
        AS FLIGHTS 3350 THROUGH 7299
        AS FLIGHTS 7310 THROUGH 9999.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII AND
  CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./CANADA
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AC FLIGHT
        ANY AM FLIGHT
        ANY AS FLIGHT
        ANY HA FLIGHT.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN CANADA AND
  THE UNITED STATES/MEXICO
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AC FLIGHT
        ANY AM FLIGHT.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN THE UNITED
  STATES AND MEXICO
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AS FLIGHT.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII AND
  CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./ALASKA
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AS FLIGHT.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII AND
  CANADA
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AS FLIGHT.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MEXICO AND
  THE UNITED STATES
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AC FLIGHT
        ANY AM FLIGHT.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN NORTH
  AMERICA AND INTL. POINTS IN THE CARIBBEAN AREA/SOUTH
  AMERICA
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AC FLIGHT.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY BA FLIGHT
        ANY AA FLIGHT
        ANY IB FLIGHT
        ANY AY FLIGHT
        ANY KM FLIGHT OPERATED BY KM.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN CANADA
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY BA FLIGHT
        ANY AA FLIGHT
        ANY IB FLIGHT
        ANY AC FLIGHT
        ANY AY FLIGHT.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN MEXICO
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY BA FLIGHT
        ANY AA FLIGHT
        ANY IB FLIGHT
        ANY AM FLIGHT
        ANY AY FLIGHT.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN HAWAII
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY BA FLIGHT
        ANY AA FLIGHT
        ANY IB FLIGHT
        ANY HA FLIGHT
        ANY AY FLIGHT.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY BA FLIGHT
        ANY AA FLIGHT
        ANY IB FLIGHT
        ANY HA FLIGHT
        ANY AM FLIGHT
        ANY AS FLIGHT
        ANY AC FLIGHT
        ANY AY FLIGHT.

Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions

  RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS
  BEFORE DEPARTURE.
  WAITLIST AND STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
  TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
  RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE
  WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
        NOTE -
          DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST
          BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT
          REMARK.
          THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS.

Minimum stay requirements

  TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
  EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

Maximum stay requirements

  TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
  MIDNIGHT 3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

Stopover restrictions

  STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

Transfer restrictions

  2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
      2 FREE IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
  AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AS IN LAX/PDX/SEA IN
            EACH DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AM IN MEXICO IN EACH
            DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AC IN CANADA IN EACH
            DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH
            DIRECTION
            2 FREE ON AA/BA/IB ONLY IN NORTH AMERICA IN EACH
            DIRECTION
          FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
          EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
          COMPONENT.

Combinability

  APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
  MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
  END-ON-END
    END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES
    FROM/TO NORTH AMERICA. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
    FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET. SIDE TRIPS
    PERMITTED.
    END-ON-END NOTE -
      ADDONS PERMITTED
  END-ON-END
    END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH INTERNATIONAL
    FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN
    SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
    END-ON-END NOTE -
      ADDONS PERMITTED
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE NOT FOR CARRIER AA/BA/IB/AY WITHIN
    EUROPE
    EXCEPT AS PROVIDED ABOVE COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER
    AA/BA/IB/AY
  OPEN JAWS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH BA
    FARES
    -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
    A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
    PERMITTED.
    MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
    MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA IN ANY
      RULE IN TARIFF
      AATBAR  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA
      FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
      IN TARIFF
      FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA
      FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
      IN TARIFF
      FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      SA2BAR  - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      SA3BAR  - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
  ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH BA
    FARES
    -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
    -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
    A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
    PERMITTED.
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA IN ANY
      RULE IN TARIFF
      AATBAR  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA
      FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
      IN TARIFF
      FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA
      FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
      IN TARIFF
      FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      SA2BAR  - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      SA3BAR  - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
  OPEN JAWS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
    A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
    PERMITTED.
    MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
    MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/IB/AY IN
      ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC.
  ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
    -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
    A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
    PERMITTED.
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/IB/AY IN
      ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC.
  OPEN JAWS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
    A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
    PERMITTED.
    MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
    MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER EC BETWEEN
    EUROPE/NORTH AMERICA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA
      FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
      IN TARIFF
      FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC.
  CIRCLE TRIPS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH
    ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF
    -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.
    A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
    PERMITTED.
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER EC BETWEEN
    EUROPE/NORTH AMERICA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA
      FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
      IN TARIFF
      FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC.

Surcharges

  IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11.
  AND - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR IB.
    A SURCHARGE OF USD 75.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
    THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
  IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11.
  AND - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AA.
    A SURCHARGE OF USD 75.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
    THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
  IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11.
  AND - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AS.
    A SURCHARGE OF USD 75.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
    THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
  IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11.
  AND - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR QF.
    A SURCHARGE OF USD 75.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
    THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
  IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11.
  AND - FOR TICKETING ON/AFTER 02JUL 13
    THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
    TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AY.
    A SURCHARGE OF USD 75.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
    THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
  IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11.
    A SURCHARGE OF USD 75.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
    THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
    AND - ORIGINATING NORTH AMERICA -
      A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 428.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
      ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
    AND - ORIGINATING EUROPE -
      A FUEL SURCHARGE OF EUR 170.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
      ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR IB.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AA.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AS.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR QF.
  FOR TICKETING ON/AFTER 02JUL 13
    THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
    TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AY.
    THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE.
  AND - ORIGINATING EUROPE -
    A FUEL SURCHARGE OF EUR 170.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
    ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

Travel restrictions

  VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 03JAN 14 AND ON/
  BEFORE 15JUN 14.

Sales restrictions

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 27DEC 13 AND ON/BEFORE
  28JAN 14.

Sales restrictions

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AA.
  TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED
  BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS
  NOT PERMITTED.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR IB.
      TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE
      ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF TICKET
      VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AY.
      TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE
      ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF TICKET
      VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.

Sales restrictions

  TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN ARGENTINA/VENEZUELA.

Penalties

  CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
        NOTE -
          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
          TRAVELLING COMPANIONS
          ----------------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
          THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH OF THE
          CANCELLED PRICING UNITS APPLIES
          WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION
          WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A
          NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          1.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT
          IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE PENALTY
          2.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
          -----------------------------------------------
          REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
          THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. FUEL AND INSURANCE
          SURCHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
          -----------------------------------------------
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
        NOTE -
          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PERSON
          FOR ADULT AND CHILD
          INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY
          CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY
          ------------------------------------------------
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED
          THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE
          COMPONENTS WILL APPLY
          ------------------------------------------------
          A CHANGE IS A DATE/ OR FLIGHT/ OR ROUTING/ OR
          RESERVATION CHANGE
          ------------------------------------------------
          PASSENGERS WHO NO-SHOW FOR A FLIGHT WILL BE
          CONSIDERED AS A CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND
          WILL RECEIVE NO REFUND OF THE FARE. CHANGES WILL
          NOT BE PERMITTED.
          -------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
          DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED - AND - ANY CHANGE
          FEE APPLIED
          -------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
          CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPLIED -AND- NO REFUND WILL BE
          MADE.
          -------------------------------------------------
          REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
          AS THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED
          ------------------------------------------------
          //CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
          1.WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED
          THE ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE
          NEWLY TICKETED FARE I.E. ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/
          TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM STAY/BOOKING
          CLASSES/SEASONALITY ETC....
          -----------------------------------------------
          2.WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
          COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING
          HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS
          TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT
          ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-WHICHEVER IS
          LOWER.
          THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE PROVISIONS
          OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES
          -----------------------------------------------
          //CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE RULE
          PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES SUCH THAT
          THE RECALCULATED FARE COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR THE
          NEW ITINERARY IF PURCHASED ON THE ORIGINAL  TICKET
          ISSUE DATE.

Endorsements

  THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
  NON/REF RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

Discounts

  ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
        TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
        THE FARE.
            TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
        THE FARE.
            TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
  OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
        FARE.

Tour Discounts

  TOUR CONDUCTOR - NO DISCOUNT.

Agent Discounts

  AGENT - NO DISCOUNT.

Voluntary changes

  IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
  BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
    CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
    THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
    CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
    COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
      REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
      PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
      1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
      2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
      BE DOMESTIC
      3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
      4. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
      5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
      6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
      DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
      OR -
      REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
      PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
      1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
      BE DOMESTIC
      2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
      3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
      4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
      OF PRICING UNIT
  WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
  ADD-COLLECT
  ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
  OR -
  BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
    CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL
    APPLY TO NEW TKT
    PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
    1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT.
  OR -
  AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
    CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
    THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
    CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
    COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
      REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
      PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
      1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
      BE DOMESTIC
      2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
      3. BA FARES ARE USED
      4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
      5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
      DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
  WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
  ADD-COLLECT
  ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
  OR -
  AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
    CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL
    APPLY TO NEW TKT
    PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
    1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT.

Application

FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS TRANSATLANTIC FARES
 APPLICATION
  CLASS OF SERVICE
    THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
  TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
    FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
    ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
  THE TICKET IS INVALID IF FLIGHT COUPONS ARE NOT
  USED IN SEQUENCE.
  FARE DOES NOT APPLY FOR REFUND CALCULATION AFTER
  TRAVEL AT A HIGHER FARE
  PASSENGER EXPENCES NOT ABSORBED BY CARRIER
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
  THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
  ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
  FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
  THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
  AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
  CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
  LEVEL- ARE NOT SUBJECT TO CAPACITY CONTROL



Step 6: Booking your flights
As you cannot actually book flights with the ITA Matrix, you will need to go to your preferred booking channel to complete the process, for example BA.com and AA.com

Prospero Jan 4, 2014 8:44 am

This thread has been launched as a beta. As you can see from the contents list it is still a work in progress. So please bear with us while we work on the remaining chapters (displayed in grey in the list of contents).

If you'd like to add your own experience or wisdom, your contribution would be most welcome.

stu1985 Jan 4, 2014 9:00 am

Really helpful thread - thanks folks.

For computer illiterates (like me) who just copy the list of airports and paste into the "From" box on the Matrix search, you might have to separate them with a comma and not a semicolon.

billinghamn Jan 4, 2014 9:13 am

This is really helpful for those of us who haven't been to all of the EU hubs. Really helpful in assessing the risk of turnarounds.

thejohn Jan 4, 2014 9:13 am

super thanks....
John

Skipcool3 Jan 4, 2014 9:29 am

An easy way of getting to Holland, to start your flights from Rotterdam or Amsterdam, is to use the Stena Line rail and sail deal overnight.

Typically the inclusive ticket costs £80 single including a train ticket from London Liverpool Street, cabin on the ship and onward train travel to anywhere in Holland.

It is very easy, and I have found it to be very stress free.

The ship is huge, new, and reliable. There are no long walks as the stations are next to the docks.

courtster Jan 4, 2014 9:41 am

What a great guide! You can also do a turnaround at MAN, here's a TP I did of my experience. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...gw-tp-run.html

fqtv_kraven Jan 4, 2014 9:47 am

For FRA, the nightstopper is always a bus gate. BA902/903 912/913 usually goes to the finger. LCY is always a bus gate.

Roger Jan 4, 2014 9:47 am

What an excellent and helpful thread with user-friendly graphics! Thank you.

In the past, I have used ex-EU tickets from VIE, ZRH and LIS as well as LIN, usually in conjunction with business trips to those cities. Since then, I know that the turnround situation at VIE (relocation of gates since my time) and ZRH (Heidi train and Schengen/non-Schengen) has changed. I'd be hesitant to recommend either of these without a test run myself.

This leads me to think it will be important if all of us can check and update as things change.

aceman Jan 4, 2014 10:17 am

Really excellent stuff!

In particular the graphics, and ITA software directions!

Curious about 2 questions though from the point of view of a luggage traveller, assuming AMS-LHR-XXX ticketed

1) Can you check luggage in at LHR before you fly AMS-LHR?

2) Can you check in luggage at LHR after flying AMS-LHR (same day non-stopover)

corporate-wage-slave Jan 4, 2014 10:22 am


Originally Posted by aceman (Post 22082428)
Curious about 2 questions though from the point of view of a luggage traveller, assuming AMS-LHR-XXX ticketed

1) Can you check luggage in at LHR before you fly AMS-LHR?

2) Can you check in luggage at LHR after flying AMS-LHR (same day non-stopover)

1) Yes from 05:00 hrs, provided you have status or flying Club Europe or higher. (Or you are 3 hours before the XXX departure). It needs to be the same day however.

2) Yes, same as above.

Obviously not checking luggage (or sending it in advance) makes life a lot easier.


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