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-   -   Does E class on Swiss earn miles? (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/bmi-diamond-club/953687-does-e-class-swiss-earn-miles.html)

martian May 13, 2009 12:27 pm

Does E class on Swiss earn miles?
 
and if so, at what rate?

I can't seem to find this info on the BMI website.

Thanks for the help :-::-:

jbfield May 13, 2009 12:30 pm

That would be a no then. Afraid these supposedly cheapo fares won't get you anything on BD.
Here's an extract from the Sticky "READ THIS FIRST: bmi Diamond Club : FAQs, Seats, Planes, Promos, Contacts..." Above :)
Which *A partner fares do NOT earn miles in Diamond Club?

Efrem May 14, 2009 10:13 am

Swiss miles apparently don't always post properly, either. I flew ZRH-BOS (enough miles to care) on LX 52 last October, booked as UA 8606 in H class. Per the tables on the bmi Web site, H fares should earn 1.0x miles on both LX and UA (not that the latter matters here), but the flight posted as 0.5x. A letter to Diamond Club with documentation got things fixed promptly, but this is something others might want to watch out for.

Guy Betsy May 14, 2009 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by Efrem (Post 11747898)
Swiss miles apparently don't always post properly, either. I flew ZRH-BOS (enough miles to care) on LX 52 last October, booked as UA 8606 in H class. Per the tables on the bmi Web site, H fares should earn 1.0x miles on both LX and UA (not that the latter matters here), but the flight posted as 0.5x. A letter to Diamond Club with documentation got things fixed promptly, but this is something others might want to watch out for.

The thing here is that H class on UA does not mean it will be H class on LX. More than likely it was on a lower booking class, eg V which would probably be why you only earned 0.5 miles. You get the miles earned on the operating carrier... not the carrier which you booked your flight on. Next time check with LX as to what booking class you are booked in. The check in agent may tell you.

HAM76 May 14, 2009 11:06 pm


Originally Posted by Efrem (Post 11747898)
Swiss miles apparently don't always post properly, either.

How long would you wait until contacting Diamond Club when neither flight nor miles post? I was flying last week so I'm not particular worried right now. At some point, though, I'd like to follow up.

Guy Betsy May 14, 2009 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by HAM76 (Post 11751951)
How long would you wait until contacting Diamond Club when neither flight nor miles post? I was flying last week so I'm not particular worried right now. At some point, though, I'd like to follow up.

I'd wait about 10 days. But bear in mind, that their systems are being upgraded now, so I would say give them an extra week.

I've had my all my LX flights credit automatically so I need not worry about it much. I've only had problems with SQ, and (lately) TK flights.

Efrem Jun 12, 2009 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by Guy Betsy (Post 11750013)
The thing here is that H class on UA does not mean it will be H class on LX. More than likely it was on a lower booking class, eg V which would probably be why you only earned 0.5 miles. You get the miles earned on the operating carrier... not the carrier which you booked your flight on. Next time check with LX as to what booking class you are booked in. The check in agent may tell you.

That could well be what happened. However, BD gave me the miles when I asked; they could have been doing me a favo(u)r, but I tend to doubt it. Also, there is AFAIK no way whatsoever to find out what class LX will ultimately book you into when you buy a ticket; it seems patently unfair to base credit on something you can't possibly know. (Asking the check-in agent might work, but at that point it's too late to do anything about it if you don't like the answer. Asking UA probably won't work; in my experience it's not something their phone agents would know. Online it's definitely not possible, at least through standard passenger-oriented booking sites.)

Traveloguy Jun 12, 2009 2:43 pm

That's not true. Most major booking tools now show fare class before you hit pay, especially both LX and LH.

What I object to is that it is hard to uprate a fare easily.

littlevoices Jun 12, 2009 2:46 pm


Originally Posted by Efrem (Post 11898406)
Also, there is AFAIK no way whatsoever to find out what class LX will ultimately book you into when you buy a ticket

The LX website (their own, which tends to have lots of good offers) is very clear throughout which fare you book into - even when you are choosing the times/dates for your flights. There is also a confirmation on payment. However, others are right, if you want to pay a bit more for a few more miles it is not as simple.

FlyingOnceMore Jun 12, 2009 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by Traveloguy (Post 11898919)
That's not true. Most major booking tools now show fare class before you hit pay, especially both LX and LH.

That's not true. We're talking about codeshares here and when you book a codeshare, booking engines don't tell you what the stated fare code you're purchasing maps to on the operating carrier.

Traveloguy Jun 12, 2009 3:20 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingOnceMore (Post 11898959)
That's not true. We're talking about codeshares here and when you book a codeshare, booking engines don't tell you what the stated fare code you're purchasing maps to on the operating carrier.

Actually the original topic is not about codeshares.

The poster in question was making a generalised comment that booking class was not available on most major booking engines which is simply not true. You can get the booking class of pretty much all sites now.

I do agree with you however that class translation is another matter, but to be fair that is not what the OP was talking about and I don't believe the Efrem was referring to booking class translation despite responding to Guy Betsy.

FlyingOnceMore Jun 12, 2009 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by Traveloguy (Post 11899125)
I do agree with you however that class translation is another matter, but to be fair that is not what the OP was talking about and I don't believe the Efrem was referring to booking class translation despite responding to Guy Betsy.

.....which is what he was referring too, in that his OP (from last month) was in relation to miles earned by booking a UA H fare but flying LX metal.

Efrem Jun 12, 2009 7:46 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingOnceMore (Post 11899240)
.....which is what he was referring too, in that his OP (from last month) was in relation to miles earned by booking a UA H fare but flying LX metal.

Just to confirm - I was specifically referring to booking class translation, per my first post in this thread (post #3). I knew what booking class I purchased from UA; one that earns 1.0x. I received 0.5x. While DC later gave me 1.0x on appeal, Guy Betsy suggested that the reason for the original 0.5x may have been LX's translation of the UA class into a different class of their own, which may have correctly posted as 0.5x. I was saying there's no easy way to find that LX class, not that it was difficult to find the UA class I had purchased. It wasn't.

(At the time I was concerned that the difference between 0.5x and 1.0x, ZRH-BOS, might affect my requalification for Gold. As it happens it won't, but I was only a month into my DC year at the time and didn't plan to a trip to South America next week.)

dodgeflyer Jun 15, 2009 8:09 am

So, although someone said "no" to Swiss "E" earning nil points is that the case and not just a BD IT error. Good to know before I do a big detour. Also, booked on an external page, does anyone know if LX will allow you do to a business upgrade on the fare (Saturday flight) which appears empty.

Traveloguy Jun 15, 2009 11:16 am


Originally Posted by dodgeflyer (Post 11909681)
So, although someone said "no" to Swiss "E" earning nil points is that the case and not just a BD IT error. Good to know before I do a big detour. Also, booked on an external page, does anyone know if LX will allow you do to a business upgrade on the fare (Saturday flight) which appears empty.

E class earns nothing. It is lowest of low fares.


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