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Swanhunter Jul 12, 2006 3:40 am

Cheapest economy books into E. So will that be .5 miles as per shorthaul, or 1 as per longhaul. And I wonder when the first compensation claim will go in for misleading product information? Click on the info about Business Restricted and it promises you 60'' leg room as per longhaul.

BD must now be the most complex simplfied airline in the world. :rolleyes:

AX9465 Jul 12, 2006 4:36 am


Originally Posted by LHR Tim
IIRC Swiss (LX) has a it's own lounge (down stairs by the gates).

Hopefully not run by the clueless lounge dragons at the business and/or Navigator lounges.

You're absolutely right - somehow I forgotten they are members of *A now.
AX

irmster Jul 12, 2006 6:24 am

Ex DME there appears to be no virtually no difference between BD and BA in economy fares or fare rules. Ex-LHR, BD has an promotional 'N' fare, which is £30 cheaper than BA's N class, but this is not replicated ex-DME.

Smirnoff Jul 12, 2006 7:13 am

Out of interest, why can't you book a ticket from MAN (or other UK airport)-DME on the website?

irmster Jul 12, 2006 7:25 am


Originally Posted by Smirnoff
Out of interest, why can't you book a ticket from MAN (or other UK airport)-DME on the website?

and why can you not book a ticket from DME to anywhere yet!

ajamieson Jul 12, 2006 7:34 am

or the UN codeshare for that matter...

virtualtroy Jul 13, 2006 1:03 am


Originally Posted by Jetstreamer
Do people think they will let us use our upgrade vouchers on this route

Hazy recollection that the UG vouchers can't be used on routes designated as long haul, or am I completely wrong?

Raffles Jul 13, 2006 2:04 am

You CAN use them on long-haul, but the upgrade is from Eco to Premium Eco. Since Moscow doesn't have Premium Eco, you may find it upgrades into J (the only alternative would be to refuse to accept the vouchers, which would be very odd.)

jbfield Jul 13, 2006 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by Smirnoff
Out of interest, why can't you book a ticket from MAN (or other UK airport)-DME on the website?

I presume it's for reasons similar to the fact that you can't buy fares SOU-AMS-EDI

or worse yet,

LHR-MAN-LAX in Business (unless economy has sold out)!

newbmiflyer Jul 13, 2006 4:22 pm


Originally Posted by chalf
Anything in western Europe to/from MOW is generally a good mile-using opportunity even in Y on any airline, in light of prevailing fares. The cheapest available non-stop economy to/from London, Paris, Rome, Milan, etc. is often within $50 of a return fare to New York.

BD's A320 appears to travel faster, and be turned faster, than BA's 767s on the comparable schedules. While the A320 is smaller than a 767, I suspect that BD can not unload, service and load a full A320 at DME in the scheduled 50 minutes.

I dont see why they cant turn around in 50 mins all other turnarounds on bd's network average 30 - 40 mins even domestic and theyre full just now! so no reason why not

irmster Jul 13, 2006 10:43 pm


Originally Posted by newbmiflyer
I dont see why they cant turn around in 50 mins all other turnarounds on bd's network average 30 - 40 mins even domestic and theyre full just now! so no reason why not

things tend to take longer than normal Russia, and especially in a Russian winter.

chalf Jul 14, 2006 2:08 am


Originally Posted by irmster
things tend to take longer than normal Russia, and especially in a Russian winter.

Though if they showed up wit a wad of $20 and $100 bills I'm sure that they could expedite things a bit.

AndrewC Jul 14, 2006 3:02 am

I'm pleased that we're getting more competition on this route.

But I suspect that the current level of supply / demand imbalance means that a single additional A320 won't bring down fares by much overall.

I truly hope that this new service eventually means that BA can no longer fill every seat on their 767s with lousy service and exorbitant fares.

I guess BMI will have a single aircraft with the new fit-out, so expect lots of delays and cancellations if the plane goes technical.

I'm longing for the day when Virgin comes to Moscow!

WHBM Jul 14, 2006 3:11 am


Originally Posted by AndrewC
I'm longing for the day when Virgin comes to Moscow!

Virgin Atlantic came to Moscow ...... and left.

Intermediate stop on the Virgin Tokyo service in its early days when the older-model 747s couldn't make it nonstop. Eliminated when longer-range aircraft came along.

Smirnoff Jul 14, 2006 3:12 am


Originally Posted by newbmiflyer
I dont see why they cant turn around in 50 mins all other turnarounds on bd's network average 30 - 40 mins even domestic and theyre full just now! so no reason why not

Why? (1) Because of all the paperwork required in Moscow, departures are regularly delayed, and (2) it can take half an hour to wait to be de-iced before departure in Winter


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