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-   -   LOT drops fuel surcharge on awards. Will bmi pass on? (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/bmi-diamond-club/1041606-lot-drops-fuel-surcharge-awards-will-bmi-pass.html)

Carolinian Dec 5, 2010 7:45 am
Originally Posted by rankourabu (Post 15384408)
not correct.

I dont know about SAS, but they sure still charge for LOT.
I read that LOT was also ending YQ on award tix. Maybe it hasn't happened yet.

Europe could use a few more honest airlines like SAS.

jamesie_version1 Dec 5, 2010 8:02 am
You will get charged YQ on SAS awards..

Unfortunately "honesty" doesnt mean a profitable airline.

rankourabu Dec 5, 2010 8:05 am
Originally Posted by Carolinian (Post 15384590)
I read that LOT was also ending YQ on award tix. Maybe it hasn't happened yet.

Europe could use a few more honest airlines like SAS.
you read right, LOT doesnt, but Diamond Club sure does :(

hugolover Dec 5, 2010 8:30 am
Originally Posted by rankourabu (Post 15384677)
you read right, LOT doesnt, but Diamond Club sure does :(
Is this legal?

rankourabu Dec 5, 2010 8:34 am
Originally Posted by hugolover (Post 15384779)
Is this legal?
probably, since YQ is still part of a revenue ticket.
so BD can lump it in with "taxes"

LO doesnt charge YQ to M&M members as a "courtesy"

hugolover Dec 5, 2010 9:09 am
Originally Posted by rankourabu (Post 15384795)
probably, since YQ is still part of a revenue ticket.
so BD can lump it in with "taxes"

LO doesnt charge YQ to M&M members as a "courtesy"
Ah yes, point taken.

B747-437B Dec 5, 2010 9:34 am
Originally Posted by Carolinian (Post 15384574)
YQ is a ripoff of consumers to begin with, but if an airline charges it allegedly on behalf of a second airline that does not, in fact, charge it at all, then that is nothing but fraud and they ought to be nailed for it.
I'd wager that the BIETA between LO/BD specifies that YQ is to be charged on all coupons and does not make exceptions for award tickets. Whether LO charges it on its own stock is irrelevant, the BIETA terms are what BD has to apply. It is the exact omission that allows the "fuel dump" to occur when the converse does not exist in other BIETAs.

GoldCircle Dec 5, 2010 9:42 am
For the uninitiated, BIETA stands for Bilateral Interline E-ticketing Agreements - and that's refers to a table published in the IATA (International Air transport Association) MITAM (Multilateral Interline Traffic Agreements Manual), a kind of bible that airline types use.

Simples. :D

B747-437B Dec 5, 2010 10:31 am
Originally Posted by GoldCircle (Post 15385137)
For the uninitiated, BIETA stands for Bilateral Interline E-ticketing Agreements - and that's refers to a table published in the IATA (International Air transport Association) MITAM (Multilateral Interline Traffic Agreements Manual), a kind of bible that airline types use.
Actually BIETAs are not published in the MITA manual any more but are downloadable from the MITA Intranet on the IATA website. :D

Oxon Flyer Dec 5, 2010 12:56 pm
Originally Posted by jamesie_version1 (Post 15384659)
You will get charged YQ on SAS awards..
£37 for LHR-OSL-LHR last week.

GoldCircle Dec 5, 2010 2:11 pm
Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 15385367)
Actually BIETAs are not published in the MITA manual any more but are downloadable from the MITA Intranet on the IATA website.
It's so much clearer, now. Thanks. :D

jbfield Dec 6, 2010 4:53 pm
Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 15385367)
Actually BIETAs are not published in the MITA manual any more but are downloadable from the MITA Intranet on the IATA website. :D
Does Intranet access come cheaper than just buying the data itself?
http://www.iata.org/ps/publications/...DE=Unpublished

B747-437B Dec 7, 2010 6:43 am
Originally Posted by jbfield (Post 15394588)
Does Intranet access come cheaper than just buying the data itself?
http://www.iata.org/ps/publications/...DE=Unpublished
Intranet access is free for all MITA member airlines. BIETA tables are updated weekly on the intranet and is the same document the public can purchase for $17k or whatever. I can probably send you a copy if you really need one (assuming my old intranet login still works).


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