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GoPhils Jun 5, 2015 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by Jason F Potvin (Post 24925486)
Here is the new Avis preferred structure.

Avis Preferred :
1 point per rental $ spent, 2 points per accessory $ spent.

Avis Preferred Plus (level attained after 12 rentals or 5000$ spent) :
1.25 points per rental $ spent, 2.5 points per accessory $ spent.

Avis President's Club (level attained after 25 rentals or 7000$ spent) :
1.5 point per rental $ spent, 3 points per accessory $ spent.

https://uat.avis.com/car-rental/cont...isPref-Points#

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Finally, President's Club is attainable without actually being a President of a big company (or via other memberships) !
I'm hoping that Avis will allow status matching, as I'm stuck at Avis First while being a National Executive Elite member (after my 100 or so rental days this year).

And it looks like any actual paid rental will count (as opposed to needing a 2-day rental to count towards a weekend coupon)?


Qualifying Rentals: A qualifying rental for Service Level memberships and rewards is defined as a completed, paid rental at participating Avis worldwide locations that is checked out and checked in within the same calendar year ("Rental"). Credit will not be earned on rentals that are unpaid or "free" of time- and-mileage charges, rentals checked out at non-participating Avis locations, nor on rentals with the following discount rates,
rate codes, rate categories or profile types: Corporate or government accounts that do not allow employees to participate in loyalty and rewards programs; Avis central billing profiles that can be used by more than one person (i.e. authorized rep card, global electronic billing account); ACTO (Avis Company Travel Orders) voucher or for instances in which a third-party award was redeemed for the rental; and employee and friends-and-family rates for Avis or any affiliated company or licensee, travel industry, tour, wholesale and meeting and convention affiliations.

Jason F Potvin Jun 5, 2015 5:27 pm


Originally Posted by IAHtraveler (Post 24925827)
And so begins the countdown until either:
1. Avis devalues the PC membership, or
2. More locations start claiming the 2-class upgrades "aren't available", thus making PC useless

I might be an optimist, but I don't see how aligning their thresholds with other programs would negatively affect the quality of the higher tier.

I myself would gladly return to Avis if I was afforded better recognition than First/Preferred Plus (obtained over a period of two months last year), which means Avis would receive more revenue. As it is now, I made all of this year's rentals with National, because their Executive Elite tier allowed me to have some very nice cars/SUVs (Cadillac, Mustang Convertible/GT, etc.) at the intermediate rate, even though National has less locations from which to rent, thus a smaller number of cars in the regional fleet.

username Jun 5, 2015 9:28 pm

So, it seems that:

1 - the redemption pricing is dynamic (i.e. like redeeming DL miles or WN RR points?) as there is no fixed award chart?

2 - rentals that receive miles/hotel points still won't get points

3 - there is no "consecutive check in and check out counts as 1 rental" rule as the hotels count stays?

4 - 5-year rule is shelf-life for the points earbed (not to renew all the points), right? (Like what AC had.)

Any prediction on if they will promote to PC and award the tier bonus to those who already qualified based on last year's rentals?

Thanks.

sdsearch Jun 6, 2015 8:48 am

no more "rental days" option for earning status!
 

Originally Posted by Jason F Potvin (Post 24925486)
Avis Preferred Plus (level attained after 12 rentals or 5000$ spent)

Rats. So apparently they're getting rid of the "rental days" option for earning the status. It was typically through "rental days" (because I do a handful of week or two-week rentals some years, but not enough separately rentals) that I'd qualify for Avis First in some years.

Though not that (as someone who always earns partner miles/points and bonuses on same, on every single rental) I get that much out of Avis First. Avis First doesn't seem to upgrade me (from lower-class cars) much more than Avis Preferred (which still upgrades me quite often) does.

papyPiHi Jun 6, 2015 12:07 pm

Hi guys,

I guess this change is only for US, right?

At the moment in Europe we are already on a rental-based model similar as what is described a few posts above:

Avis Preferred Plus:
reach that level with 5 rentals and €1000 spend

Avis Presidents club
Reach that level with 10 rentals and min €2000 spend

No Avis first that I know of.
The PDF doc for loyalty is here.
http://www.avis.co.uk/dms/avis/PDF/a...ts-summary.pdf

wierdo Jun 7, 2015 2:42 pm

If PC upgrade become as rare as First upgrades, this will not be any better for me. Back when I was PC through the Chase card they would bring me nice cars from the airport when I reserved at the neighborhood location. Not only do they not bother now that I am a lowly First (I wouldn't expect them to anyway), they decline to give me a premium on a full size reservation even when they have one sitting there.

The only upgrade I've gotten in 10 rentals so far this year was when I used an upgrade coupon. It's a bit infuriating, TBH. Why bother to have the benefit if it is never actually given? (I'm particularly annoyed today because they had an MKZ on hand, which would have been a single class upgrade, it's been sitting there unrented for days and the car I have will be up for an oil change before the end of the week so it would have made everyone's life easier to just give me the damn upgrade)

4aks Jun 7, 2015 3:19 pm

I just started using Avis in the past week - it' s the preferred provider for my firm, and now need to rent cars regularly

I have th AMEX PLAT card and have had the old Avis Preferred status through that - it looks like that no longer has any special value

Has anyone heard if the AMEX PLAT will now give us Preferred Plus status?

I'm at 2 rentals in the past 10 days, will have my 3rd next week

username Jun 7, 2015 7:38 pm


Originally Posted by 4aks (Post 24933697)
I have th AMEX PLAT card and have had the old Avis Preferred status through that - it looks like that no longer has any special value

Has anyone heard if the AMEX PLAT will now give us Preferred Plus status?

Avis Preferred is a program, not a status.

No one knows that Avis Preferred Plus program will be like - the T&C we found here seems to be from the Beta site. It probably IS the real one but the T&Cs do not seem to have been officially announced.

At the end of the day, as you see in how they handled the program change, Avis really does not care much about loyalty.

FallenPlat Jun 8, 2015 7:26 am

I'll apologize up front for this very basic, and possibly unanswerable, question. What benefit, then, is there in having the American Express Platinum card or the Citi Prestige card, which I believe are supposed to get you Avis First, which in turn appears to be vaporizing?

hhoope01 Jun 9, 2015 6:53 am

It may well be definitively unanswerable at the moment, but a guess might be that it will change to provide the new Preferred Plus status instead.

4aks Jun 16, 2015 10:42 pm

I'm on track to meet the "12 rentals or 35 days" criteria by mid July

Is Avis FIRST a dead program at this point? or should I expect an invite into it?

Nothing in my current avis account mentions points earned etc

username Jun 28, 2015 3:48 am

So, we are two days from the end of the program and 3 days from the new program. Has anyone found any details other than the Beta site?

Thanks.

4aks Jun 28, 2015 12:44 pm

I just called Avis to ask, was transferred to the PC desk. They confirmed the details mentioned above, and the rental count and spend count starts as of July 1st, no credit for YTD spend/rentals

The agent said the website will report what your count is, everyone starts at Preferred, then at 12r/$5k will be auto-elevated to Preferred Plus, and at 25r/$7k will be auto-elevated to President's Club

I have a rental beginning tomorrow, returning Thurs July 2nd, unclear if that'll be counted

wierdo Jun 28, 2015 5:13 pm


Originally Posted by 4aks (Post 25039316)
I just called Avis to ask, was transferred to the PC desk. They confirmed the details mentioned above, and the rental count and spend count starts as of July 1st, no credit for YTD spend/rentals

That is mildly infuriating. I'm already at 13 rentals so far this year, am First, and will get downgraded to plain Preferred for a couple of months if this is true. On the bright side, there is still enough time to make PC on weekly rentals.

sdsearch Jun 28, 2015 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by 4aks (Post 25039316)
I just called Avis to ask, was transferred to the PC desk. They confirmed the details mentioned above, and the rental count and spend count starts as of July 1st, no credit for YTD spend/rentals

Will it be 12r/$5k for a rolling 12 month period, or for a July 1 to June 30 23 month period, or this year for only a 6 month period??? :confused:

Of course, if MasterCard World Elite updates giving Avis First status to giving Avis Preferred Plus status, that just might the easier route.


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