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endet May 10, 2017 12:04 am


Originally Posted by blueferrari (Post 28291301)
all of nightclubs are closed during Ramadan under authority order. no small convenience store selling alcoholic beverages anymore as it is prohibited.

in other months you can get it in bigger/supermarket, but I'm not sure in Ramadan, I think you won't be able to. (I may be wrong though, I don't drink so couldn't give you exact info). I'm not sure whether hotels provide any.

Bali is different case altogether.


as for drinking water in public, it's not a big deal here, moreover if you're easily identified as tourist. few stares, maybe. but it won't get you arrested.

Many thanks for your insights. I might think about going to Bali then if I require beer for that time. But it also might be a good experience just not to drink for that one week I intend to stay in Indonesia. :)

DeepUnderground May 10, 2017 2:09 am


Originally Posted by endet (Post 28291498)
Many thanks for your insights. I might think about going to Bali then if I require beer for that time. But it also might be a good experience just not to drink for that one week I intend to stay in Indonesia. :)

I would be completely shocked if you could not get alcohol at your hotel. Room service at the worst.

endet May 10, 2017 10:56 am


Originally Posted by DeepUnderground (Post 28291777)
I would be completely shocked if you could not get alcohol at your hotel. Room service at the worst.

Thanks, that was actually the information I am looking for. So hotel would be fine, pubs and bars would be closed. Lets see what I can make out of it. Maybe a trip to Bali first and then ~October Jakarta and Bandung. :)

Zolex May 10, 2017 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by endet (Post 28289704)
Any recommendations or advice on watering holes (beer) during the evening? Would it even be possible during Ramadan to get a beer somewhere?

Some places do sell alcohol during Ramadan but rather secretly. They are pretty scared of hardline Islamic groups destroying their property. As far as I know alcohol is not banned by law during Ramadan, but this could've been changed recently (I try to avoid Jakarta during Ramadan). Don't expect big crowds though and most of the bars that still serve alcohol are located within hotels.

If you are interested in Jakarta nightlife I can recommend this website: http://www.jakarta100bars.com . Also includes information about venues with "extra services" if that's your thing. :D

endet May 10, 2017 10:37 pm


Originally Posted by Zolex (Post 28294647)
Some places do sell alcohol during Ramadan but rather secretly. They are pretty scared of hardline Islamic groups destroying their property. As far as I know alcohol is not banned by law during Ramadan, but this could've been changed recently (I try to avoid Jakarta during Ramadan). Don't expect big crowds though and most of the bars that still serve alcohol are located within hotels.

If you are interested in Jakarta nightlife I can recommend this website: http://www.jakarta100bars.com . Also includes information about venues with "extra services" if that's your thing. :D

Why are you avoiding Jakarta during Ramadan? I guess its because of the cut down nightlife?

I am happy if there are less crowds around. It just shouldn't be closed down at all :)

If the extra services would be my thing I believe there are other places in the world where it would be much easier to have :)

Jaimito Cartero May 11, 2017 12:04 am

It can be trying to be in Jakarta during Ramadan. Everyone grumpy, sleep deprived, etc. After Idul Fitri, the traffic is better for 3-5 days, then back to it's normal hellish status.

DannoTheManno May 11, 2017 1:31 am

I'm flying from Doha in J on QR958 to Jakarta and will look to connect onto a Malaysian airlines flight to Kuala Lumpur.

The flight in is scheduled to land at 07:40am so I am thinking of booking MH712 which departs at 9:55am, I'll only be flying with hand luggage.

Any advice on connecting through Jakarta (I assume I don't need to clear immigration of anything like that) and does this seem to be a reasonable amount of time?

Zolex May 11, 2017 1:39 am


Originally Posted by endet (Post 28296130)
Why are you avoiding Jakarta during Ramadan? I guess its because of the cut down nightlife?

Well for practical reasons mostly :p since this also the holiday period in Indonesia I'm usually either in Bali or in my home country.

Zolex Jul 17, 2017 2:43 am

Anyone got some new on the 'skytrain' that will connect the different terminals at CGK? It should be operational from T2-T3 from June and by August it should be fully operational but I can't find much information about the current state of operations.


And the main question is, where do I get on the train from T2? I have a short connection (T2-T3) coming up in August and want to avoid taking the transit bus or a taxi.

Jaimito Cartero Jul 17, 2017 4:29 am


Originally Posted by Zolex (Post 28569522)
Anyone got some new on the 'skytrain' that will connect the different terminals at CGK? It should be operational from T2-T3 from June and by August it should be fully operational but I can't find much information about the current state of operations.


And the main question is, where do I get on the train from T2? I have a short connection (T2-T3) coming up in August and want to avoid taking the transit bus or a taxi.

When I arrived at T2 this week, all I saw is a lot of construction going on. My driver mentioned a 2020 completion date, but probably talking about connecting to Jakarta.

Zolex Jul 17, 2017 6:39 am


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 28569716)
When I arrived at T2 this week, all I saw is a lot of construction going on. My driver mentioned a 2020 completion date, but probably talking about connecting to Jakarta.


Probably he was talking about the Jakarta connection indeed.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...a-airport.html

gpeso8 Jul 17, 2017 9:12 am


Originally Posted by Zolex (Post 28569522)
Anyone got some new on the 'skytrain' that will connect the different terminals at CGK? It should be operational from T2-T3 from June and by August it should be fully operational but I can't find much information about the current state of operations.


And the main question is, where do I get on the train from T2? I have a short connection (T2-T3) coming up in August and want to avoid taking the transit bus or a taxi.

I'd like to know as well. My wife was transiting T2-T3 in early June and the "Skytrain" was not operational yet. I'm going to be making a T3-T2 transit in a few weeks so hopefully it is running!

Jaimito Cartero Jul 17, 2017 4:15 pm

I'm a bit of a pessimist when it comes to construction projects in Indonesia. I wouldn't book a tight (sub 2 hrs) connection, and count on this train.

thegrailer Jul 17, 2017 10:30 pm

I am late to the party here but I was in CGK and Bandung during Ramadan two years ago. Beer was readily available in the hotel - freely flowing in the Hyatt lounge in both cities. Sadly, the Bandung Hyatt is no longer part of the chain (amazing service). I didn't look in CGK, but there didn't seem to be any beer anywhere outside of the hotel in Bandung (did I look in the wrong places?). Also, while not a long time resident, the folks seemed very accommodating for foreigners looking for food/drink during the day.

Cheers



Originally Posted by endet (Post 28289704)
I am planning a trip for end of May 2018 (quite early, but as a German I need my plans!). It will be around Ramadan and I intend to go to Bandung on Thursday.
Which means from Sunday evening to Thursday I would like to spend visiting Jakarta to get a feel for the capital before I explore the country (a little bit) for the first time.
Any recommendations or advice on watering holes (beer) during the evening? Would it even be possible during Ramadan to get a beer somewhere?
I have read here and elsewhere that small convenience stores are not allowed to sell beer (anymore) but I am a little bite afraid of no beer at all during that time (zeh German!).

Also, for those people living for a longer time in Indonesia / Jakarta: would it be OK if I go out during the day and drink some water while exploring the sites (Monasir et. al.)? I know that as a traveler I would not fall under the rules of fasting, but would like to check the local customs with you knowledgeable folks.

Many thanks in advance and safe travel or stay!


Zolex Jul 17, 2017 10:42 pm


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 28572460)
I'm a bit of a pessimist when it comes to construction projects in Indonesia. I wouldn't book a tight (sub 2 hrs) connection, and count on this train.

You're not alone! Anyway, I've got 3 hours next time. Arriving in J and departing in J. Should be more than enough time. But still the train would've been nicer :)


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