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senor hamachi Nov 30, 2004 12:41 pm

Hi all,
We're planning a trip to BA in April, and were wondering if things are generally open on Easter sunday, or if the city more or less shuts down. If they're closed we may delay the trip by a few days.
Thanks for your help.

USAFAN Nov 30, 2004 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by senor hamachi
Hi all,
We're planning a trip to BA in April, and were wondering if things are generally open on Easter sunday, or if the city more or less shuts down. If they're closed we may delay the trip by a few days.
Thanks for your help.

senor:

May calender says: Easter Sunday 2005 is on March 27th :)

senor hamachi Nov 30, 2004 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by USAFAN
senor:

May calender says: Easter Sunday 2005 is on March 27th :)

oops! I'll blame my wife Buster, for looking at 2004. But then again, I doublechecked it, and I looked at 2004 as well! Thanks.

USAFAN Nov 30, 2004 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by ALadyNCal
....Any other good suggestions in the Recoleta area?...

Hotel Etoile
Presidente R. M. Ortiz 1835
(1113) Capital Federal
Buenos Aires – Argentina
Tel.:(54-11) 4805-2626
Fax:(54-11) 4805-3613
http://www.etoile.com.ar/

Get this guide - they delivered it to the hotel:

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/arg...p?idContent=31

Guide to Buenos Aires

Price: $ 30 Capital and Greater BA (postage included) Interior add $ 5. Other countries; U$S 20 (postage included)

The Buenos Aires Herald has published the 5th edition of the traditional Buenos Aires Tourism Guide in English.

A guide especially designed for tourists, foreigners, expats and newcomers. Written by local people who know and love BA.

What to visit?, Where to eat?, What to buy?

Find them in a 272 colour-page guide. Read all kind of answers to curiosities, history, details, hints, tips and everything tourists, foreigners, expats and newcomers need.

The different porteño circuits: Avenida de Mayo, La Boca, San Telmo, Retiro, Banking district, Puerto Madero, Recoleta, Palermo, Belgrano, Abasto and Beyond Downtown. Cultural circuit: Around museums and art galleries, and Jorge Luis Borges’ tour.

Shopping centres, hotels, restaurants and bars. Tango shows and tango academies. Also, the unforgettable BA at night, its architecture, people, secrets and history. An indispensable tool. Everything you need to know about porteños life!

$ 25 Capital and Greater BA (postage included)
Interior add $ 5.

Other countries; U$S 18 (postage included)

Gaucho100K Nov 30, 2004 3:49 pm

thanks to all of you
 

Originally Posted by WindFlyer
Thank you to all the posters for all the info. Great tips I'll be putting to use next week...

... and to Gaucho100K: Muchisimas gracias por empezar este "thread" y compartir tu perspectiva local. Sos de lo mejor.

No, thank you and all the other FTers that consider coming to Argentina to visit. I hope that the little information that I can gather and offer here will help all those interested in visiting my home town. I again apologize for not having all the answers and also not being able to always answer in a timely manner, I sometimes wish I had a little more time to dedicate to this thread.

Thanks again to everybody for their patience... :D ^

Cheers and greetings from Buenos Aires!!!

Gaucho100K

billycwhatup Nov 30, 2004 5:41 pm

OK Gaucho- Here's one for you.

I have a company that has been growing very nicely dealing with servicing the US Hispanic market through Argentina (vague, I know). As we've grown, we have more and more folks traveling between the US and Argentina. A few months ago, we negotiated a pretty good rate (US$170 or so) with the Park Tower. But, when you factor in the 25% tax and all of the other additions, it's adding up as we have more people going down there more often.

I'm looking for a 4 or 5* hotel, in central BA that is a cheaper alternative - but it must have broadband internet. Someone suggested the Nogaro, which is right on Plaza de Mayo, which has wireless high-speed and is around $80/night in the volume we're discussing (around 15-20 room nights/month). Anything else come to mind?

Thanks.

Gaucho100K Dec 1, 2004 4:28 am

Hello Billy. With that negotiated rate at the Park Tower, I would suggest speaking to the folks at the Hilton Puerto Madero. If Im not mistaken, they have wireless LAN services at least on the executive floor level. Another property that comes to mind is the Crown Plaza Panamericano, although again Im not sure what the internet situation looks like.

Sorry I cannot be of more assistance.

FTFNYC Dec 1, 2004 4:48 am

Plaza Serrano
 
I've been doing some last minute updating for my trip to BA in late Feb/early March. Bidding on apartments in Plaza Serrrano, which according to Moon Handbooks, is now an epicenter of trendy, fusion oriented dining and nightlife options. True?

It was interesting to see someone mention parts of BA being like NYC before the Rudy era emerged. Should be no problem, just have to turn up the safety radar.

iahphx Dec 1, 2004 6:17 am


Originally Posted by FTFNYC
It was interesting to see someone mention parts of BA being like NYC before the Rudy era emerged. Should be no problem, just have to turn up the safety radar.

I said it, and I think it's true. I just wouldn't send a "backpacking" college kid to BA for his first int'l trip. Nor would a send any other travel novice -- at least without a structured tour to get their feet wet. You will see examples of extreme poverty -- contrasted by a European-like cafe society among the better off. It is quite a contrast these days.

FWIW, I didn't see anything that actually looked "violent." I think the major risk for tourists is having a bag or wallet stolen, and I think that's unlikely to happen if you exercise reasonable precautions.

KurtD Dec 1, 2004 8:23 am


Originally Posted by FTFNYC
I've been doing some last minute updating for my trip to BA in late Feb/early March. Bidding on apartments in Plaza Serrrano, which according to Moon Handbooks, is now an epicenter of trendy, fusion oriented dining and nightlife options. True?

It was interesting to see someone mention parts of BA being like NYC before the Rudy era emerged. Should be no problem, just have to turn up the safety radar.

Plaza Serano is in Palermo, its a very safe neighborhood. That plaza is my favorite place to spend Sunday afternoons, it fills up and overflows with local artists selling some very creative pieces that represent a very wide range of methods and styles. There are people selling other less original stuff, the same sorts of things you'd see at any of the other street markets around the city such as toys, leather goods, mate cups, and so on, but Plaza Serano has the most original art for sale that I've seen any where in the city. It also attracts a very diverse crowd of people, on any day of the week. There are a handful of good cafes on the plaza, and a bunch of great little restaurants in the surrounding neighborhood. I think that you'd love having an apartment there.

Viajero Dec 1, 2004 8:28 am


Originally Posted by iahphx
I said it, and I think it's true. I just wouldn't send a "backpacking" college kid to BA for his first int'l trip. Nor would a send any other travel novice -- at least without a structured tour to get their feet wet. You will see examples of extreme poverty -- contrasted by a European-like cafe society among the better off. It is quite a contrast these days...

I beg to differ. In my view most, if not all, of the areas a tourist might want to visit in Buenos Aires are perfectly safe, and I would encourage anybody, travel novices and college kids included, to visit such warm and friendly city ¿People sifting through the rubbish? sure, but let's put that into perspective: they are not looking for Burger King leftovers to eat, they are looking for *cardboard*, to sell and earn a few pesos, the very same activity that takes place all over elegant Europe too, by the way, only that in Paris, or Madrid, it is done at 3 or 4 am, not at 8pm like in Buenos Aires, so the the 'scare' factor is less likely to affect the average tourist.

Gaucho100K Dec 1, 2004 9:23 am

I second what KurtD and Viajero posted above... ^

Gaucho100K Dec 1, 2004 9:36 am


Originally Posted by iahphx
I said it, and I think it's true. I just wouldn't send a "backpacking" college kid to BA for his first int'l trip. Nor would a send any other travel novice -- at least without a structured tour to get their feet wet. You will see examples of extreme poverty -- contrasted by a European-like cafe society among the better off. It is quite a contrast these days.

FWIW, I didn't see anything that actually looked "violent." I think the major risk for tourists is having a bag or wallet stolen, and I think that's unlikely to happen if you exercise reasonable precautions.

I dont agree with this. As a matter of fact, Buenos Aires in particular and Argentina in general is happy to receive many backpackers from not only North America, Europe and Scandinavia all year round. I can think of dozens of destinations that I would feel are more hazardous for a first time traveller... but then again, Im speaking of my home town here so I guess its hard for me to be objective.

iahphx Dec 1, 2004 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero
the very same activity that takes place all over elegant Europe too, by the way, only that in Paris, or Madrid, it is done at 3 or 4 am, not at 8pm like in Buenos Aires, so the the 'scare' factor is less likely to affect the average tourist.

While I do not want to discourage folks from visiting BA, it is important to have realistic expectations. The level of poverty and "homelessness" in BA is simply not comparable to Western Europe or any other "first world" destination. There is significant and very visible poverty on the streets of BA. It is the reality, whether we like it or not.

rjque Dec 1, 2004 7:35 pm


Originally Posted by iahphx
While I do not want to discourage folks from visiting BA, it is important to have realistic expectations. The level of poverty and "homelessness" in BA is simply not comparable to Western Europe or any other "first world" destination. There is significant and very visible poverty on the streets of BA. It is the reality, whether we like it or not.

I have no sense of what the actual statistics are, but I notice more poverty and homelesness here in San Francisco than I saw in BA. My view was probably skewed by the fact that I stayed in Recoleta and Palermo most of the time. However, my brief time in the more tourist central area yielded far fewer homeless people than I see even in the wealthier sections of San Francisco.

Of course, I know there must be some extremely impoverished neighborhoods in BA that would contrast starkly with Recoleta, etc.


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