Amex USA terms now penalize:abuse,misuse,gaming;1st yr downgrade/close;leaked offers.
#181
Join Date: Apr 2014
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P.S. You are right in that you would probably get more data points in the Amex sync offers thread.
#182
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#183
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Does this 12-month minimum also apply to upgrades? I may've known the answer at some point, but forgot. Let's say I upgrade Blue Cash Everyday to Preferred. Does it need to stay Preferred for a certain minimum period to avoid a clawback of the upgrade bonus? In this particular example the full AF will not be 12-months after the upgrade but sometime sooner.
#184
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#185
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
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I have a Hilton Ascend that I am interested in downgrading to the no fee card - I have no intent to cancel it as I see the no-fee card as a long-term keeper. The annual fee just hit - it is pretty low risk to downgrade this card now, correct?
#186
Join Date: Feb 2016
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Yes, that's exactly what we did with our Hilton cards.
#187
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Just keep in mind that AmEx will refund the prorated portion of the AF (11/12) due to the downgrade, compared to the full AF due to a closure. It's a small difference, but can be irritating if you're not expecting it.
#190
Join Date: Nov 2018
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Be careful, better not cancel/downgrade your cards within 12 months.
#192
Join Date: Nov 2018
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#193
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While we haven't heard of such a partner points clawback to date, be aware that particularly in the case of Hilton, Amex seems to have a super-tight relationship with Hilton points, in that it shows me my Hilton point total on the Amex site, and in some cases that's more up to date than what the Hitlon website shows. So if there's any partner points they could claw back, I would expect Htlton points to be the most likely, since they must have digital "tentacles" into the Hilton program to give such "early" HH points totals on the Amex website.
#194
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 775
I tried to do a Amx Membership Rewards transfer to Marriott as I had an offer of +50% more Marriott points , I had not done a transfer to SPG in 5 years and never updated my SPG to the new Marriott number on AMX site.When I did the transfer I was told to update SPG to new Maarriott #, after I did that I got a denial with the following
:"This action will not be completed at this time because your account is currently being reviewed to make sure all eligible purchases meet qualifying criteria."
I have two cards that earn MR points A gold personal that I was "PRE APPROVED FOR " in April 2019 - I finished the spend and the points posted in May-- the spend ALL "none" MS as I paid a tax bill --
The second card is a business Platinum that required a 10k spend I also did "no" MS the card is 11 months old now
.I spoke to MR and they told me it will take 6 to 8 weeks and I will get a letter ( and they have no info on why ) I have had AMX cards for 48 years and this is a first for me - yes over the years have played the game as long as AMX rules allowed and only do organic spend I "always" speak to a supervisors to confirm I am eligible for bonus and have them note my account.
Any ideas - I have not read about this on FT" all eligible purchases meet qualifying criteria" and I am concerned as I WOULD THINK AMX MUST SEE SOMETHING!!!
:"This action will not be completed at this time because your account is currently being reviewed to make sure all eligible purchases meet qualifying criteria."
I have two cards that earn MR points A gold personal that I was "PRE APPROVED FOR " in April 2019 - I finished the spend and the points posted in May-- the spend ALL "none" MS as I paid a tax bill --
The second card is a business Platinum that required a 10k spend I also did "no" MS the card is 11 months old now
.I spoke to MR and they told me it will take 6 to 8 weeks and I will get a letter ( and they have no info on why ) I have had AMX cards for 48 years and this is a first for me - yes over the years have played the game as long as AMX rules allowed and only do organic spend I "always" speak to a supervisors to confirm I am eligible for bonus and have them note my account.
Any ideas - I have not read about this on FT" all eligible purchases meet qualifying criteria" and I am concerned as I WOULD THINK AMX MUST SEE SOMETHING!!!