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born sleepy Jan 9, 2024 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 35892045)
Wow I was really expecting them to increase the number of miles required to get status

This erroneous blog post made me squawk. It's been corrected, but as of Sunday the author was claiming wrong (and higher) LP earn levels. 250,000 for EXP! But then I checked here and this forum had not exploded, so I figured it was wrong;

Phew!

dw Jan 9, 2024 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by born sleepy (Post 35894122)
This erroneous blog post made me squawk. It's been corrected, but as of Sunday the author was claiming wrong (and higher) LP earn levels. 250,000 for EXP! But then I checked here and this forum had not exploded, so I figured it was wrong;

Phew!

We’re spared for the coming year (undoubtedly all the backlash to Delta’s program changes may have influenced AA and UA). I think how the economy looks at the end of 2024 will heavily influence how things look next year.

Anecdotally, I’m already seeing some softness in premium fares on the domestic routes I fly for 2024 so there’s that…

travelingdrsuz Jan 9, 2024 7:35 pm

First, I would like to thank Delta, an airline I never fly, for making the biggest faux pas of greed this year, having to walk some of it back after the public outcry, and likely putting fear of mileage gods into UA and AA--at least a teeny bit.
Next, I would like to thank AA because the only reason I refuse to buy up to upgrades is that I don't get LPs, which is silly. Great move, IMO. Also, while 1K LP is not big, it's LPs and it's bigger than seat coupons or priority boarding. Anything that is something is better than nothing, and all that empty philosophical jazz.
It's only the second year of LPs, and they already raised the Gold level last year, as well as the SWU level. It's nice to finally see things given and not taken.
Good job, AA.

dw Jan 9, 2024 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by travelingdrsuz (Post 35894141)
It's only the second year of LPs, and they already raised the Gold level last year, as well as the SWU level. It's nice to finally see things given and not taken.
Good job, AA.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they had already planned increases in qualification levels for the coming year, but rolled those back after the DL backlash.

AA has actually bought themselves time by changing the qualification year from Jan 1 to March 1; now they have 2+ months to respond to competitors.

prathetkrungthep Jan 9, 2024 7:45 pm


Originally Posted by UA_Sycophant (Post 35893813)
I'm wondering if some of this is to ensure AA flyers continue to credit miles to AAdvantage instead of Alaska, being that Alaska eliminated their requirement that a minimum number of segments be flown on their metal for MVP status. Given they still have distance-based elite qualification with tiers at 20k / 40k / 75k / 100k, AA flyers who usually fly discounted economy will likely have an easier time attaining Alaska status and enjoying all the Oneworld benefits on AA.

And the SDC benefit for all members. I think you have to be AS MVPG75k to get SDC on AA. As someone who barely made plat, I am contemplating hopping to AS for this qualifying year now that AS has removed metal requirements and MVPG is a much more attainable OWS status via actually flown miles. I’m already tired of playing the LP game after a year, but these enhancements surely are making me think twice.

jpsj Jan 9, 2024 8:13 pm

Apologize if this is somewhere in previous posts, but as an EXP who doesn't purchase cash upgrades, I really don't see many benefits to EXP. What am I missing?

For basic fare, I would have liked EXP to earn full loyalty points for the fare paid instead of the discounts 4.7 miles.

prathetkrungthep Jan 9, 2024 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by jpsj (Post 35894227)
Apologize if this is somewhere in previous posts, but as an EXP who doesn't purchase cash upgrades, I really don't see many benefits to EXP. What am I missing?

For basic fare, I would have liked EXP to earn full loyalty points for the fare paid instead of the discounts 4.7 miles.

nothing exclusive to EXP beyond FFD mileage redemptions that are also avail to PPRO

fly747first Jan 9, 2024 9:09 pm

Still no changes for the Million Miler program which is the worst compared to AS, DL, and UA's.

donotblink Jan 9, 2024 9:10 pm


Originally Posted by Herb687 (Post 35892543)
Why? AA has clearly shown it wants to make everyone elite. Or at least dangle enough carrots to where people pay lots of extra money to AA to be elite, hoping they never engage in self-reflection along the lines of "what happens when everyone is elite?"

There's a huge cost to providing the benefits at the 250k level and I wouldn't have been surprised to see them bump it to 300k. They moved it from 200k to 250k for this year. Don't get me wrong, I'm elated. I'm also surprised to see the 20% and 30% kickers sticking around!

ZenFlyer Jan 9, 2024 9:34 pm


Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 35894347)
I'm also surprised to see the 20% and 30% kickers sticking around!

I was also pleasantly surprised by this. The "spend for LPs" approach must be proving profitable to AA.

beachfan Jan 9, 2024 10:44 pm


Originally Posted by UA_Sycophant (Post 35893494)
Wouldn't an AA Emerald need to be traveling internationally for this? As opposed to non-AA Emeralds, who could access it with any same-day ticket international or domestic? The focus here is new benefits for AA members.

Either way, the Qantas F Lounge probably isn't conveniently located to most of AA's gates.


very convenient to T4.

prathetkrungthep Jan 9, 2024 10:47 pm


Originally Posted by ZenFlyer (Post 35894407)
I was also pleasantly surprised by this. The "spend for LPs" approach must be proving profitable to AA.

Credit card company operating an airline on the side

beachfan Jan 9, 2024 10:49 pm


Originally Posted by stant (Post 35893761)
"24-hour trip hold:"
does a 24 hour hold have anything to do with award holds? no. there is no ambiguity here. there are two kinds of holds in the system. they are not talking about the one you are concerned with.

that’s an assumption. Today it refers to paid tickets, it says nothing about tomorrow.

you may be right but at least two experienced readers don’t read it the way you do- hence it’s ambiguous by definition.

i thought 6 months extra on flight credits was unambiguous, but it is and in a deceptive way. The email only went to members who are NOzT getting six more months then they used to.

beachfan Jan 9, 2024 10:52 pm

Duplicate

bryanwallace Jan 10, 2024 12:15 am

- can earn additional LPs and miles when you accept buy-up offers in the app or online

does this also apply to the extra miles boost you can add on bookaahotels? will they qualify as LP now?


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