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bgasser Sep 27, 2023 7:33 pm

Out of JFK, AA does not serve SAN, LAS, or SLC non stop. A lot of gaps to major cities in their route map heading west. Why they cant profitably offer weekend non stop service to LAS is surprising.

dw Sep 27, 2023 8:21 pm


Originally Posted by bgasser (Post 35618464)
Out of JFK, AA does not serve SAN, LAS, or SLC non stop. A lot of gaps to major cities in their route map heading west. Why they cant profitably offer weekend non stop service to LAS is surprising.

LAS is an odd one as it has come and gone so many times over the past few years. Hopefully it will eventually be back with the NEA over.

SAN is at least served by AS.

Antarius Sep 27, 2023 8:38 pm

AA is suing to save the NEA.

They're up a creek without a paddle otherwise. Their NY strategy is neither coherent, nor consistent and no amount of PR and alcohol can make make PHL a viable alternative.

It's impressive that they've managed to screw this up this badly, given the fact that they own JFK-LHR and LAX, the most profitable routes on earth.

ty97 Oct 17, 2023 2:07 pm

Some additions (mostly resumptions?) out of LGA next summer for AA. All on E175s. Some noted as seasonal, unclear if rest will be year round?

LGA to:
Bangor (1x / day)
Hyannis (1x) (seasonal)
Martha's Vineyard (1x) (seasonal)
Nantucket (1x) (seasonal)
Portland, ME (2x)
Halifax (1x)

Also DCA-Hyannis 1x E75 seasonal service

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231017-aans24us
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231016-aans24ca

SNA_Flyer Oct 17, 2023 7:06 pm

I've been told "Mediocre At Best" is the new company mission statement.

prodi12 Oct 17, 2023 7:48 pm


Originally Posted by brenc3 (Post 35617531)
I'm just hoping not to see any backsliding in BOS, B6's other focus city. AA had a decent presence there in the 90s and 00s, lots of transcons. Then they cut all Eagle flights and at one point were nearly back to service to "cornerstone" cities (remember those?) on the eve of the US merger. That merger brought a ton more service, plus a much bigger and nicer (post-reno) AC. AA is now nearly tied with DL in passenger share (19% each), behind B6 (30%). Maybe some opportunity to seize some market share and make it to #2?

AA has still been whittling some service at BOS. The loss of BOS-LAX frequency that others have mentioned is pretty shocking, down from 4-5x not long ago to 2x. I got hit with a very undesirable schedule change because of that recently. They do compete with DL, UA, B6 on that route, all of them offering lie-flat seats in business.

BOS isn't great for domestic connections, but it's got international connections on BA, IB, JL, CX, QR, who don't serve (or don't serve much) nearby AA strongholds like PHL, DCA, CLT. The BOS B-C-E airside connector makes these easier than they used to be. And it's a strong O&D market. There are a lot of areas where AA seems unfocused at the moment, but I hope the reaction to the loss of B6 partnership isn't to retreat from BOS like they did 10-15yrs ago.

I’m 100% with you on this one. Really hope AA can shift some focus to BOS and really try to grow their presence there more to become a clear #2 or even challenge B6 a bit more. The terminal B, C and E post security walkways would make connections to transatlantic flights a breeze, especially with so many more flights popping up now from European carriers to Boston. This is a huge advantage compared to Delta who is stuck on their own island in Terminal A. Plenty of demand for business and leisure travellers from Boston by itself so if American wants to really compete post-NEA with B6 they can definitely do it here.

DataPlumber Oct 17, 2023 8:46 pm

When running a business crafting strategies without data is pointless, so why bother here?

Antarius Oct 17, 2023 10:32 pm


Originally Posted by DataPlumber (Post 35672452)
When running a business crafting strategies without data is pointless, so why bother here?

its the AA strategy. Throw stuff at a wall and change every 6 months. :cool:


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