Avis - AA Mile/LP Earning
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 15
Avis - AA Mile/LP Earning
Noticed that Avis and AA changed their earning structure overnight… kind of a bummer for any business traveler who rents a day or so at a time on a company rate. Definitely a benefit for longer term renters or those who spend a higher dollar value on vacation or otherwise.
The below miles were counting for me as base miles which with 30-40 rentals a year was going to net me 20-25% of my loyalty points for EXP…. No longer sadly
Old structure:
- 500 miles per rental (no status)
- 750 per rental (Credit Card holder)
- 1000 per rental (gold, plat, pro)
- 1250 per rental (exp)
New structure:
Disappointing for me… will probably go back to National or someone else as Avis car quality is sub-par where I rent. Also disappointing that the change just took place out of the blue, thanks Avis & AA haha
The below miles were counting for me as base miles which with 30-40 rentals a year was going to net me 20-25% of my loyalty points for EXP…. No longer sadly
Old structure:
- 500 miles per rental (no status)
- 750 per rental (Credit Card holder)
- 1000 per rental (gold, plat, pro)
- 1250 per rental (exp)
New structure:
- Earn 2 base miles per dollar spent – AAdvantage® members.
- Earn 3 base miles per dollar spent – Citi® / AAdvantage® cardmembers and AAdvantage® Aviator® Mastercard® cardmembers without AAdvantage® status.
- Earn 4 base miles per dollar spent –AAdvantage Platinum® and AAdvantage Gold® members.
- Earn 5 base miles per dollar spent – AAdvantage Platinum Pro®, AAdvantage Executive Platinum® members.
Disappointing for me… will probably go back to National or someone else as Avis car quality is sub-par where I rent. Also disappointing that the change just took place out of the blue, thanks Avis & AA haha
#2
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: APAC
Programs: NH SF, JL JGC
Posts: 160
Wow this is crazy. It looks like it's posted on the Avis website: https://www.avis.com/en/business-pro...rican-airlines
I have a couple upcoming Avis reservations and this is a huge bummer.
I have a couple upcoming Avis reservations and this is a huge bummer.
#3
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 31,144
And Budget (unsurprisingly) is following suit:
https://www.budget.com/en/programs/m.../aero-american
https://www.budget.com/en/programs/m.../aero-american
#4
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Everywhere
Programs: AA EXP - 3.7MM, Bonv LIFETIME Titan, HH Dmd, Hyatt Glob., Priority Clb Dmd, Ntnl Exec El., Sixt PLT
Posts: 1,702
Perhaps, AA is raising the cost of miles sold to Avis/Budget and other vendors. I tried Avis a few times in the past but stayed with National crediting rewards back to free rental days.
#5
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 15
Agreed, this was a nice little sweet spot for me as it was a 1000-1250 miles for effectively a 24 hour rental at around $60-70…
Now that earn will be cut down to almost 1/3 of that I plan to move to another brand after my upcoming rentals. The hassle with Avis and the age of their vehicles just isn’t worth it for a few hundred miles and LPs
Maybe if I have a weeklong vacation rental or something with highflier $ spend I’ll consider Avis but this will change my behavior the other way. Previously this was really the only reason I rented with Avis
Now that earn will be cut down to almost 1/3 of that I plan to move to another brand after my upcoming rentals. The hassle with Avis and the age of their vehicles just isn’t worth it for a few hundred miles and LPs
Maybe if I have a weeklong vacation rental or something with highflier $ spend I’ll consider Avis but this will change my behavior the other way. Previously this was really the only reason I rented with Avis
#9
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 13,098
You don't need to book through AA, you can book directly with Avis or with your corporate TA, etc. Just make sure your AA# is attached to your Avis profile and the account is set to earn FF miles.
#10
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Live: IWI; Work: DCA/Everywhere; Play: LAS/SJU/MLE
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Ambassador/LTP, Nat'l Exec Elite, LEYE Gold
Posts: 6,856
Thanks for the post, I wouldn't have known otherwise. I stick with National for the Exec Elite perks, but occasionally I have cheated with Avis or Budget for the 1250 miles. No more.
#12
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: LAX
Programs: AS 100K, DL PL, B6 M3
Posts: 186
Wow major blow, roughly 25% of the points now for my typical weekly rentals. (1-2 corporate rentals per week).
American is certainly pushing me away with the new Loyalty Point scheme. Flying and Avis rentals requires a huge amount of spend.
American is certainly pushing me away with the new Loyalty Point scheme. Flying and Avis rentals requires a huge amount of spend.
#13
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,668
My last Avis rental was a 3 day rental with a base rate of $250 - so exactly the same earnings in the old structure as the new in that example.
Aside from that one example - pretty inconsequential change IMO, car rentals are in the noise in terms of the easiest/best ways to earn LPs.
Aside from that one example - pretty inconsequential change IMO, car rentals are in the noise in terms of the easiest/best ways to earn LPs.
#14
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: LAX
Programs: AS 100K, DL PL, B6 M3
Posts: 186
My last Avis rental was a 3 day rental with a base rate of $250 - so exactly the same earnings in the old structure as the new in that example.
Aside from that one example - pretty inconsequential change IMO, car rentals are in the noise in terms of the easiest/best ways to earn LPs.
Aside from that one example - pretty inconsequential change IMO, car rentals are in the noise in terms of the easiest/best ways to earn LPs.
#15
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 15
My points generally post from Avis in roughly 1-2 weeks… it used to be right at a week on the dot but recently it’s been a little more variable