Originally Posted by jerseytom
(Post 31660328)
And yet their verbiage is very specific. It doesn't say "outer dimensions comply with most major airline published requirements." It says that it passes the sizer (which I suppose is all that matters as far as a GA go/no-go gauge)
Not an unreasonable hypothesis that the sizer has some built in tolerance. Will be a mildly interesting experiment here next month. Be interesting to see whether it actually fits within the sizer limits or just marketing lies |
Originally Posted by Antarius
(Post 31656970)
Victimless crime, if the 0.5 inches affects nothing.
Originally Posted by ijgordon
(Post 31658432)
Why can't AA just write its policy to be "Suggested maximum dimensions are 22x14x9, subject to gate agent discretion."
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I'd like to know if anyone has seen if the "enforcers" will allow the front of the bag to be squished in behind the bar? Is it OK if it squishes in? I'm often using a Travel Pro 20" bag that easily passes on height and width but the front of the bag (the 9" dimension) is a half inch over, but the overage is a squishable computer pocket. My past experience with sizers has been if bags squish in they are deemed OK, but who knows how the enforcement will be now. Would like to hear any experiences on this.
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Originally Posted by AA100k
(Post 31660077)
As I wrote, I never seen an AA sizer with personal item dimensions, not that I’ve never seen an AA sizer. The one in post #150 shows dimensions for carry-on bag, not personal item.
On a side note, those sizers look to have been created back when basic economy only included a personal item. |
Another sizer showing personal item sizing guidelines. This was from this morning at BTR. I noticed this one has zero reference to BE, so doesn't seem to have been created for when BE was personal item only.
ZERO enforcement of carry-on baggage for the flight to DFW. At least 7 people boarded with a roller bag, a backpack, and a garment bag. Front closet is full from hanging garment bags. FA was very friendly and hung about 5 garment bags from coach passengers, all of whom had it as their 3rd carry-on item. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7cc4984542.jpg |
Originally Posted by genotonda
(Post 31661561)
Another sizer showing personal item sizing guidelines. This was from this morning at BTR. I noticed this one has zero reference to BE, so doesn't seem to have been created for when BE was personal item only.
ZERO enforcement of carry-on baggage for the flight to DFW. At least 7 people boarded with a roller bag, a backpack, and a garment bag. Front closet is full from hanging garment bags. FA was very friendly and hung about 5 garment bags from coach passengers, all of whom had it as their 3rd carry-on item. |
Last time I took a tape measure to the sizers upthread the dimensions for Carry-Ons to the outer edge of the white lines was the 22" and 14". The depth for the front inside bar to the rear wall was 10".
eta: The 10" makes sense as that's where there's the most variability from packing and hence some leeway. |
Originally Posted by no1cub17
(Post 31661732)
Wow - I guess I'm just incredibly naive and had no idea that so many folks board with 3(!) carry-ons. But then again, to some people here, bringing 3 carry-ons is the same offense as having a bag that's 0.25 inches over the sizer's limit (but still would easily fit in any overhead). So go AA! Go get those 0.25 inchers!
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Originally Posted by genotonda
(Post 31661561)
Another sizer showing personal item sizing guidelines. This was from this morning at BTR. I noticed this one has zero reference to BE, so doesn't seem to have been created for when BE was personal item only.
ZERO enforcement of carry-on baggage for the flight to DFW. At least 7 people boarded with a roller bag, a backpack, and a garment bag. Front closet is full from hanging garment bags. FA was very friendly and hung about 5 garment bags from coach passengers, all of whom had it as their 3rd carry-on item. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7cc4984542.jpg |
Originally Posted by AA100k
(Post 31661992)
Last week in PHL, they still had the old sizers without the yellow lines. I stand corrected. In any event, the new sizer poses no problem for those among us who follow the rules.
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Originally Posted by genotonda
(Post 31661941)
I dont normally pay attention, but with this becoming a hot topic, just so happened that I noticed a guy in gate area, waiting to board, with 3 items. He had a roller, backpack, and what looked like a large-sized cooler. Something that could hold like 8-10 cans. He boarded group 1, same as me. He had no issues. I was in 2A, so all the requests for hanging of garment bags happened to catch my attention. Then noticed that for all of them, it was a 3rd item. Can't say if this is the norm or not, because usually I'm not paying attention. And this was on a maybe 3/4 full E175.
Also, in general, I stand by my earlier comments that 90% of bags are not in compliance anyways. Most bags are ever so slightly too large, once you include the wheels and handles - there are like 2 models cited in this thread that fit exactly, but thats it. |
Originally Posted by no1cub17
(Post 31661732)
Wow - I guess I'm just incredibly naive and had no idea that so many folks board with 3(!) carry-ons. But then again, to some people here, bringing 3 carry-ons is the same offense as having a bag that's 0.25 inches over the sizer's limit (but still would easily fit in any overhead). So go AA! Go get those 0.25 inchers!
The most awesome was in HNL last year when they made me run my backpack through the sizer (huge value add, given I had 4 overhead bins available to choose from in J on a 772) while allowing a Group 7 pax next to me to take 3 oversized items onboard. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by BLG
(Post 31660784)
I'd like to know if anyone has seen if the "enforcers" will allow the front of the bag to be squished in behind the bar? Is it OK if it squishes in? I'm often using a Travel Pro 20" bag that easily passes on height and width but the front of the bag (the 9" dimension) is a half inch over, but the overage is a squishable computer pocket. My past experience with sizers has been if bags squish in they are deemed OK, but who knows how the enforcement will be now. Would like to hear any experiences on this.
A few years ago at DFW, I had kind of roller duffel bad that was cut out to fit the normal carryon size reqs but when stuffed, would always fit in the bin, but need a good push to fit in the sizer. I was told it had to fall into the sizer "with ease" to count. Mind you this was on a fully booked hub to hub flight where half of the plane was boarded by group 4, so it was probably not an audit but just them looking for any reason to make an elite heavy flight gate check bags. |
Originally Posted by deeruck
(Post 31658765)
Yep. I was genuinely shocked when my bag beat me to the carousel in ORD this week. If that was more regular, I'd be fine with checking a bag.
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Originally Posted by chicago747
(Post 31658397)
Would a "soft sided garment bag" include one made of leather? Per their site AA says Soft-sided garment bags up to 51 inches / 130 cm (length + width + height) can also be taken as your carry-on item.
Seems these types of bags actually get a larger size allowance than a normal rollaboard. Seems a bit unfair. |
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