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Old Nov 12, 2018, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
Could it be that you just hysterically overreact to everything that ever comes up?
Say what you want. We all fly a lot for work and when a certain type of equipment goes mx time after time I don't think my post was at all "hysterically overreacted".

I stand by my comment.

I just noticed I am unfortunately flying the 788 again on Wednesday back to Chicago. I booked this trip before last week so I wasn't able to change the flight based on equipment. If this plane goes out on time I'll throw a party.
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Old Nov 12, 2018, 12:41 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian
When my flights have been delayed due to mechanical all times I've flown this plane, yeah, it's a POS.
This thread is veering into the absurd. Other have pointed out that there was no problem in their experience, and also that nothing suggests that there is a particular overall problem with this model. However, you continue to insist that if YOU have experienced problems, that is all that matters.

The term for that is solipsism, you can look it up. These days more than ever, it is important to deal in statistically significant facts, rather than beliefs, anecdotes, personal testimony, "some say", etc. It is reasonable and common on FT to report anecdotes ("data points"), but not reasonable to keep insisting that they have special value because they happened to you.
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Old Nov 12, 2018, 1:19 pm
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I would tend to think that if there was some kind of over riding reliability issue with the 788/789 AA would be up Boeing's tail fin in a heartbeat. Mechanical delays cost airlines money and if a newer aircraft wasn't performing well AA would be seeking damages against Boeing.
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Old Nov 12, 2018, 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian
Say what you want. We all fly a lot for work and when a certain type of equipment goes mx time after time I don't think my post was at all "hysterically overreacted".

I stand by my comment.

I just noticed I am unfortunately flying the 788 again on Wednesday back to Chicago. I booked this trip before last week so I wasn't able to change the flight based on equipment. If this plane goes out on time I'll throw a party.
Your flights on a particular type of aircraft are statistically irrelevant to the reliability of that aircraft. Even if you were a pilot that would be true. You’re not hysterically overreacting, but you are wrong.
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Old Nov 12, 2018, 2:43 pm
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The term for that is solipsism, you can look it up.
I tried to look it up and it kept redirecting me to my FT profile
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Old Nov 12, 2018, 3:34 pm
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As an extremely superstitious person, I think it might be Chicago that is jinxing your flights. I avoid Chicago airports whenever possible, even at higher expense. Yet, I might be completely off-base and downright wrong about this assumption.
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Old Nov 12, 2018, 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Flight44
As an extremely superstitious person, I think it might be Chicago that is jinxing your flights. I avoid Chicago airports whenever possible, even at higher expense. Yet, I might be completely off-base and downright wrong about this assumption.
I think that you're on to something. To this day, I sacrifice a small offering of Admirals Club snacks to the upgrade gods when SWUs don't clear right away and I always ensure to avoid offending the IRROPS deities for good measure.

Clearly enviroian has disturbed the Dreamliner spirits who live on Mt. Boeing, likely by referring to them as a bucket of bolts.
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Old Nov 12, 2018, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian
When my flights have been delayed due to mechanical all times I've flown this plane, yeah, it's a POS.
Originally Posted by enviroian
Say what you want. We all fly a lot for work and when a certain type of equipment goes mx time after time I don't think my post was at all "hysterically overreacted".
Originally Posted by dougzz
Your flights on a particular type of aircraft are statistically irrelevant to the reliability of that aircraft. Even if you were a pilot that would be true. You’re not hysterically overreacting, but you are wrong.
Exactly. What percentage of total AA flights using this aircraft have you been on? See what we mean?
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Old Nov 12, 2018, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by dougzz


Your flights on a particular type of aircraft are statistically irrelevant to the reliability of that aircraft. Even if you were a pilot that would be true.
Huh? Insignificant, certainly, but not irrelevant. No need to overreact in the opposite direction.
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Old Nov 12, 2018, 5:49 pm
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"Bumbling Bucket of Bolts"

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Old Nov 12, 2018, 6:15 pm
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Originally Posted by enpremiere
I tried to look it up and it kept redirecting me to my FT profile
I must say, I stayed away from this thread for a while, but I'm glad I checked it out. Very enjoyable drama.
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Old Nov 12, 2018, 6:17 pm
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Originally Posted by enpremiere
I think that you're on to something. To this day, I sacrifice a small offering of Admirals Club snacks to the upgrade gods when SWUs don't clear right away and I always ensure to avoid offending the IRROPS deities for good measure.

Clearly enviroian has disturbed the Dreamliner spirits who live on Mt. Boeing, likely by referring to them as a bucket of bolts.
I'm not superstitious. It brings bad luck!
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Old Nov 13, 2018, 5:28 am
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Spent 14 hours looking at a fully dimmed window that wouldn't "open". Very annoyed to have paid for that privilege. I suppose that's the choice of the flight crew to crank them all "shut", but on a daytime flight... why!?
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Old Nov 13, 2018, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by pmiranda
Spent 14 hours looking at a fully dimmed window that wouldn't "open". Very annoyed to have paid for that privilege. I suppose that's the choice of the flight crew to crank them all "shut", but on a daytime flight... why!?
Just as in retail and casinos, sunlight takes you back to reality. Can't have a plane full of wide-awake passengers in the middle of the day now can we
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 12:28 pm
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my 2.37 PM departure is.....delayed....late leaving 788 from O'hare.

Wonder why??

bolts.
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