Elite status: a pointless goal?
#31
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW-In Plano & CDG-In the 11th
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I tried to be conservative and told a friend I travel in PEY for some LH, and the immediate response was "you are rich and wasting money!" (Didn't even bring up purchased J).
"Yeah, I don't dine in fancy restaurants every weekend for $200+ each, or "uber" dinners every night"
"Yeah, I don't dine in fancy restaurants every weekend for $200+ each, or "uber" dinners every night"
Airline status (of any kind (unless you are CK, AND your poo don't stink)) is so '90s. Unfortunately, after checking my sundial, we are in 2018. Mileage Runs in this household are now so '90s, also.
#32
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I've flown with status and I've flown without. In almost every measurable way it's better to fly with status. The reasons for that hardly need repeating.
#33
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
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I don't know why this is controversial. If you are flying more than say 10 segments a year, status is beneficial.
#34
Join Date: Apr 2017
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Ultimately, each of us must do a cost benefit analysis to determine whether or not maintaining status is worth the cost. The cost of maintaining status is highly variable and greatly depends on one's travel patterns. For someone who flies AA/BA DFW-LHR in J monthly on their employer's dime, the cost of maintaining status is effectively zero. Whereas someone who flies to various and less popular destinations, the cost could be more expensive tickets, less convenient routings, etc.
For me, it's definitely nice to have status, but I also accept that there are some instances where my status is completely useless (such as flying non-partner airlines in Europe, Africa, Asia, etc). Further, as the majority of my travel is international, I probably derive a lot less benefit from my status than someone who flies 100 domestic segments annually.
One thing is certain. If the majority of my travels took me to Africa, I'd have a hard time justifying loyalty to AA. *A is probably a better bet for the majority Africa flyer.
#35
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I have a fantastically fulfilling job. And my kids think I'm an outrageously cool mom.
#36
Join Date: May 2004
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#38
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#39
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
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Ideally, status should cost nothing. For those that are flying a decent amount (say 35,000 EQM), it makes sense to direct enough of those flights to one airline so that you earn status. Even my meager Gold status with AA has gotten me free standby, upgrades on business trips, free bags, and other amenities that I would have had to pay extra for.
#40
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
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For me, it's definitely nice to have status, but I also accept that there are some instances where my status is completely useless (such as flying non-partner airlines in Europe, Africa, Asia, etc). Further, as the majority of my travel is international, I probably derive a lot less benefit from my status than someone who flies 100 domestic segments annually.
One thing is certain. If the majority of my travels took me to Africa, I'd have a hard time justifying loyalty to AA. *A is probably a better bet for the majority Africa flyer.
One thing is certain. If the majority of my travels took me to Africa, I'd have a hard time justifying loyalty to AA. *A is probably a better bet for the majority Africa flyer.
#41
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: New York
Programs: AA, CX, Hyatt, Marriott
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When I started travelling for business in 1982, my new boss told me "Treat your expense account dollars like they are your own." Now, I don't have an expense account, and I treat my dollars the same way-as if they are my own.
Airline status (of any kind (unless you are CK, AND your poo don't stink)) is so '90s. Unfortunately, after checking my sundial, we are in 2018. Mileage Runs in this household are now so '90s, also.
Airline status (of any kind (unless you are CK, AND your poo don't stink)) is so '90s. Unfortunately, after checking my sundial, we are in 2018. Mileage Runs in this household are now so '90s, also.
I enjoy my experiences with CX as OWE regardless of J or W, F lounges, two TALT AA flights services this year were good, and I had to cancel a lot of last minute rewards flights on AA this year without paying penalty, on top of 100% domestic upgrade and 100% SWU clear. That's enough said about my opinion on status, FOR ME.
Last edited by andersonCooper; Aug 14, 2018 at 1:59 pm
#42
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold but PlatPro thanks to LPs
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My dad told me the same thing back in the 1960s. It's true.
#45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,586
I fly because I need to fly. Status comes as a result of that. I don't fly because I want status.
I have never missed an Y-->J SWU request as an EXP. I can always get a shower and have a calm lounge to relax in. I have access to fast track security and first class check-in at international outstations. For my flying pattern that's huge. Don't tell me that status brings "limited benefits".