Any other ORD-based flyers struggling with AA's schedule/lack of frequency
By way of background, I travel predominantly for business, 100% North America, usually midweek. The majority of my trips are to the West Coast (literally every city AA flies nonstop to from ORD), and Southeast (ATL, Florida, Carolinas, DC area), with a few other random trips once per quarter or so (this year it was MSP, YYZ, and LGA x 2). I am only allowed to book economy, but sometimes I will pay out of pocket to upfare to F if it's reasonable (e.g. my ORD-SFO flight this week was only $62 more). I usually book one-ways, and I'm rarely able to book more than 2 weeks in advance. I spend a LOT of time in exit rows :D . I switched to AA in 2013 after 830K lifetime UA EQMs after I just couldn't take it anymore with UA. Have been PLT or EXP every year since. I am writing this on an LAX-ORD flight, which will qualify me for Plat Pro.
Lately I have really been struggling with making AA work for many of the itineraries I need. My goal in life right now is to spend as few nights away in hotels as possible. I am loyal to AA, but I absolutely will NOT spend an extra night away just to make sure I fly with AA. I have had to book on other airlines quite a few times this year as a result. Some examples this year and looking into next year:
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I thought MIA has a few evening flights to Chicago? Like a 7pm and a 9pm?
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Originally Posted by aisleorwindow
(Post 29169845)
I am loyal to AA, but I absolutely will NOT spend an extra night away just to make sure I fly with AA.
You're going to need to fly other carriers. That's what happens when even a very large market is split 3 ways: frequency and number of non-stop destinations won't be what you can get out of ATL or DFW. It's good for price competition on the routes that see service. It's better for you, too, to see the issues of AA vs. other carriers' performance. |
Originally Posted by aisleorwindow
(Post 29169845)
I have had to book on other airlines quite a few times this year as a result.
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Since you are an AA loyalist, I would send your post verbatim to AA Customer Service. Just copy and paste it into the box. Their midweek schedule reductions are going to bite them in the a**, if they don't do it carefully.
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Originally Posted by MSP_Monopoly
(Post 29169875)
I thought MIA has a few evening flights to Chicago? Like a 7pm and a 9pm?
Looks like you are correct. This was not the case earlier in 2017 - glad to see this ^
Originally Posted by 3Cforme
(Post 29170085)
The only CHI carrier with more departures than AA is UA, and you already said you couldn't put up with UA any more. That's not to say that AA/UA departures are equally distributed across the routes you travel...
You're going to need to fly other carriers. That's what happens when even a very large market is split 3 ways: frequency and number of non-stop destinations won't be what you can get out of ATL or DFW. It's good for price competition on the routes that see service. It's better for you, too, to see the issues of AA vs. other carriers' performance.
Originally Posted by Austin787
(Post 29170248)
You already identified the best solution: look at all airlines and choose the one that best meets your needs for a particular trip.
Originally Posted by formeraa
(Post 29170315)
Their midweek schedule reductions are going to bite them in the a**, if they don't do it carefully.
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If you're sitting in exit rows and upfaring to F out of your own pocket, then why are you so dead set on being loyal? I'm not being hyperbolic when I say that it really doesn't sound like loyalty is getting you very far. You can upfare on any major carrier, regardless of status...
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There is something wrong with your searches.... looking at this week, AA has:
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Originally Posted by GregL
(Post 29170449)
There is something wrong with your searches.... looking at this week, AA has:
Every airport has seasonal route changes, and I don't think the situation at ORD is as dire as the OP suggests. |
I think the OP may have not factored that the ideal flights may have been sold out given how close he books to departure. |
Originally Posted by aisleorwindow
(Post 29170364)
My point was that 2017 has seemed to be significantly more challenging in this regard than in past year.
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Originally Posted by Austin787
(Post 29170248)
You already identified the best solution: look at all airlines and choose the one that best meets your needs for a particular trip.
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Originally Posted by aisleorwindow
(Post 29169845)
There are always exceptions, but this is the general rule. |
Well it sounds like others are not having the same experience as I am, lol. Just to clarify a few things:
Originally Posted by arlflyer
(Post 29170382)
If you're sitting in exit rows and upfaring to F out of your own pocket, then why are you so dead set on being loyal? I'm not being hyperbolic when I say that it really doesn't sound like loyalty is getting you very far. You can upfare on any major carrier, regardless of status...
Originally Posted by GregL
(Post 29170449)
There is something wrong with your searches.... looking at this week, AA has:
Let's look at mid-January and Feb: ORD-SEA - the 5pm doesn't run on Tue or Wed (my main travel days), and the 8pm and 10pm are gone ORD-SJC - one flight a day at 5pm - again, this means flying into SFO or spending another night away, which I'm not willing to do SJC-ORD - one daily flight at 8am ORD-RSW - my point was that the latest flight was at 3pm, so can't work a full day and still get there same night You're right about MIA-ORD, it wasn't an option for my specific example, but it could've been that those flights were sold out
Originally Posted by golfingboy
(Post 29171174)
I think the OP may have not factored that the ideal flights may have been sold out given how close he books to departure. Thanks to everyone for their feedback. |
Originally Posted by IAHtraveler
(Post 29172954)
Going TO a hub, airlines try to get the flights to arrive in time to make the last bank of connections for the night. So going from a DL hub to an AA hub, I would think DL would have flights that depart later than the AA options, as AA is trying to get you to ORD in time to make a flight out. However, the opposite is also true. I would expect AA to have flights PHL/ORD/CLT - ATL/MSP to depart later than the DL options.
There are always exceptions, but this is the general rule. |
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