Chances of 77W
Dec 12, 2017, 9:57 pm
#16
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I had 7L I think on the Zodiac this past year -- the rear-facing unconnected "bulkhead" seat in the second cabin, and thought it was totally fine for a redeye/sleeping and actually pretty private as your head is away from the aisle. Obviously the motion issue in other seats could be huge, and then I think the other drawback particularly on day flights is less "counter space" in the seat due to the yin-yang configuration. The benefit is your feet aren't in a cubby, but on a day flight I like the space to spread my stuff out. The 77W and 772 Super Diamond both have that.
In any event, I image by T-3 months the schedule should be fixed in terms of 77W vs. 772, but with the 772 you never do know what you'll really get. I think you can tell from the seat map that if it has 12 rows of J you'll be getting Zodiac, but with 10 rows it could be either, and I would imagine that is subject to substitution until the last minute.
In any event, I image by T-3 months the schedule should be fixed in terms of 77W vs. 772, but with the 772 you never do know what you'll really get. I think you can tell from the seat map that if it has 12 rows of J you'll be getting Zodiac, but with 10 rows it could be either, and I would imagine that is subject to substitution until the last minute.
Dec 12, 2017, 10:01 pm
#17
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No, that is simply not accurate.
If you are booked in business class on a plane with a lie-flat and it switches to one without one, you are entitled to a free flight change (not sure if that's an official AA policy, but AA will do it without problem). But the 772s all have lie flats now. No free change (or, in this case, no forcing award availability).
If you are booked in business class on a plane with a lie-flat and it switches to one without one, you are entitled to a free flight change (not sure if that's an official AA policy, but AA will do it without problem). But the 772s all have lie flats now. No free change (or, in this case, no forcing award availability).
Details about equipment substitutions are all over the International Tariff, and entitle the passenger to a free change (but must pay fare difference) or a refund. Still not clear about forcing award availability though.
Dec 13, 2017, 3:30 am
#18
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I got an aagent to force availability for this exact reason, on these exact routes last summer. Ended up getting screwed by AA because all the LAX-LHR flights that day were oversold and they downgrade award tickets first.
Dec 13, 2017, 6:54 am
#19
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This is actually one of the biggest problems with booking International first class on American, especially if you do it six or eight months in advance. They have been playing around with where they put the 77W planes and between those various cities and London you can wind up with first tickets and no effective way to fly the route you want. I somewhat regret having my family of five on a flight in first with American this summer, where we pick up the 77W in London and take it to LAX. It’s not until August 16, and I now fully expect that our particular flight won’t have the 77W on it by the time that flight rolls around.
Dec 13, 2017, 8:07 am
#20
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Were you booked in F? I would imagine AA a bit more willing to accommodate a pax that was downgraded than just a straight swap because of equipment type, but I don't know how much discretion individual agents have.
Dec 13, 2017, 9:39 am
#21
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The A380 has an excellent F product IMO, but not everyone is prepared to pay the exorbitant YQ charges (and the APD if it’s out of the UK) to fly BA.
Dec 13, 2017, 9:45 am
#22
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No, that is simply not accurate.
If you are booked in business class on a plane with a lie-flat and it switches to one without one, you are entitled to a free flight change (not sure if that's an official AA policy, but AA will do it without problem). But the 772s all have lie flats now. No free change (or, in this case, no forcing award availability).
If you are booked in business class on a plane with a lie-flat and it switches to one without one, you are entitled to a free flight change (not sure if that's an official AA policy, but AA will do it without problem). But the 772s all have lie flats now. No free change (or, in this case, no forcing award availability).