Confirm upgrade with Miles + Copay, switch to SWU later?
Dec 27, 2018, 6:17 pm
#16
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On the LAX-SYD the upgrade is desirable enough (to me) to do it and not look back - assuming the SWU gift is slow is arriving. It won't stay open long! OTOH, if it is a domestic segment, I'd probably wait. Of course, if it IS a domestic segment, upgrade it for $75 and get the miles back if the SWU comes though and don't fret the $75. (I THINK it is still $75...)
Feb 2, 2019, 9:09 pm
#17
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Bumping this thread... Has there anyone had any luck swapping from an SWU back to Mileage + Copay upgrade? Currently waitlisted for HKG-(P class)-LAX-(Y class A321T)-BOS with an SWU. Since the HKG-LAX segment is quite full and LAX-BOS is pretty empty, if LAX-BOS ends up clearing first, can I request AA to change the SWU to a Mileage upgrade? (full Y class, mileage upgrade seems like a better deal)
My other option is of course waitlist the LAX-BOS segment with MIleage+Copay upgrade and the transpacific leg on an SWU, but if I can switch from SWU to Mile+copay I can save 5000 miles...
My other option is of course waitlist the LAX-BOS segment with MIleage+Copay upgrade and the transpacific leg on an SWU, but if I can switch from SWU to Mile+copay I can save 5000 miles...
Feb 20, 2019, 9:55 am
#18
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Still hoping for an answer to the original question:
if a miles/copay is confirmed (miles deducted, copay charged, reticketed and seat assigned) can it be substitute d with an SWU and get the miles back? Don’t care about copays. I was saving my SWUs for a bigger trip and using miles/copays on domestic transcons, but given that I won’t take the big trip without confirmable C space at booking, I’m worried that I won’t use them on a big (optional pleasure) trip.
if a miles/copay is confirmed (miles deducted, copay charged, reticketed and seat assigned) can it be substitute d with an SWU and get the miles back? Don’t care about copays. I was saving my SWUs for a bigger trip and using miles/copays on domestic transcons, but given that I won’t take the big trip without confirmable C space at booking, I’m worried that I won’t use them on a big (optional pleasure) trip.
Feb 20, 2019, 10:13 am
#19
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Still hoping for an answer to the original question:
if a miles/copay is confirmed (miles deducted, copay charged, reticketed and seat assigned) can it be substitute d with an SWU and get the miles back? Don’t care about copays. I was saving my SWUs for a bigger trip and using miles/copays on domestic transcons, but given that I won’t take the big trip without confirmable C space at booking, I’m worried that I won’t use them on a big (optional pleasure) trip.
if a miles/copay is confirmed (miles deducted, copay charged, reticketed and seat assigned) can it be substitute d with an SWU and get the miles back? Don’t care about copays. I was saving my SWUs for a bigger trip and using miles/copays on domestic transcons, but given that I won’t take the big trip without confirmable C space at booking, I’m worried that I won’t use them on a big (optional pleasure) trip.
Feb 20, 2019, 10:54 am
#20
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And it doesn’t require C availability at time of making the switch?
Feb 20, 2019, 11:17 am
#21
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Don't believe so. You already have the C space booked in your reservation. All the agent and tariff desk should need to do is swap the certificate that is attached to your reservation from a mileage upgrade to a SWU.
Feb 20, 2019, 12:07 pm
#22
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I haven’t done the exchange for a few years but when I did I got the miles back but not the copay.
Feb 20, 2019, 3:08 pm
#23
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This will lower the chance that I have SWU's go unused.
Feb 21, 2019, 9:00 am
#24
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So you’re telling me that their bad information cost me $700? 😡
Feb 21, 2019, 9:15 am
#25
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no one said your place in the queue would stay the same. But since you bring it up, miles and copay have the same ranking as SWU, so you lose your spot when they pull the miles/copay and regain it when you are added back.
Feb 21, 2019, 9:51 am
#26
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Luck and the right person on the phone
Still hoping for an answer to the original question:
if a miles/copay is confirmed (miles deducted, copay charged, reticketed and seat assigned) can it be substitute d with an SWU and get the miles back? Don’t care about copays. I was saving my SWUs for a bigger trip and using miles/copays on domestic transcons, but given that I won’t take the big trip without confirmable C space at booking, I’m worried that I won’t use them on a big (optional pleasure) trip.
if a miles/copay is confirmed (miles deducted, copay charged, reticketed and seat assigned) can it be substitute d with an SWU and get the miles back? Don’t care about copays. I was saving my SWUs for a bigger trip and using miles/copays on domestic transcons, but given that I won’t take the big trip without confirmable C space at booking, I’m worried that I won’t use them on a big (optional pleasure) trip.
Mar 16, 2019, 7:19 am
#27
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As the OP of the thread I think we have a fairly definitive answer (yes, you can switch from Miles+copay to SWU) here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30888065-post564.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30888065-post564.html
Mar 16, 2019, 8:33 am
#28
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I don't think it's the squaky wheel gets the oil (that's for the "influencers"/complainers/blast emails to as many AA contacts as you can find) but rather the right agent with the right knowledge maketh the right keystrokes to get it to happen. No need to be QIK about it.
Jul 23, 2019, 4:30 pm
#29
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Can you "hold" C Inventory w/ co-pay+cash until you get your SWU's?
Looking at a LAX-HKG flight next year.
C inventory is available but I won't hit my EQDs for EXP until December, this no SWU's in my account til then.
Can I use the 25k AA Miles+$350 co-pay to secure the upgrade today and then call back in December for a miles+cash refund and use an SWU?
C inventory is available but I won't hit my EQDs for EXP until December, this no SWU's in my account til then.
Can I use the 25k AA Miles+$350 co-pay to secure the upgrade today and then call back in December for a miles+cash refund and use an SWU?
Jul 23, 2019, 4:40 pm
#30
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I and others have discussed this topic intermittently in this thread: Confirm upgrade with Miles + Copay, switch to SWU later?
In sum, you should definitely get your miles back (redeposit of mileage awards, including upgrades, is free for EXP). Technically the copay is non-refundable, and IIRC most reports indicate you won't get that back, but it can't hurt to ask.
In sum, you should definitely get your miles back (redeposit of mileage awards, including upgrades, is free for EXP). Technically the copay is non-refundable, and IIRC most reports indicate you won't get that back, but it can't hurt to ask.