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sethMCOflyer Jun 28, 2017 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by kb9522 (Post 28496529)
Why B6 instead of DL? I wouldn't pick a LCC as a primary...

Anyone who has flown it can tell you why. For econ I don't think anyone beats them.

cmd320 Jun 28, 2017 4:10 pm


Originally Posted by Seth Moore (Post 28497312)
Anyone who has flown it can tell you why. For econ I don't think anyone beats them.

Agreed, in fact B6 is really the only airline I will fly in Y on, and 90% of the time that's to the Northeast to trasfer onto an intercontinental flight in J/F operated by a foreign airline.

Snag an exit row seat on the A320 with no one in the middle and it beats domestic F in some cases.

cova Jun 28, 2017 5:42 pm

Some of us still are earning EXP with no business travel. It is still not that hard to do.

I do heavy travel the first 3 months of the year - about 50% real trips, 50% - overnight trips. Already have EXP for next year. I am helped with the CC bonuses of $6K EQD and 20K EQM - but will still be flying more.

If you play the game - EXP is $6K EQD and 80K EQM, and you can earn the $6K EQD by flying 60,000 miles regardless of what you paid for your ticket.

live5 Jun 28, 2017 6:06 pm


Originally Posted by kb9522 (Post 28496529)
Why B6 instead of DL? I wouldn't pick a LCC as a primary...

I switched from B6 to DL as my primary as my travel needs began to increase a few years back. As an evening flyer, most if not all of my flights on B6 would be delayed. Often significantly. DL is much, much better about getting me there on time.

brewdog11 Jun 28, 2017 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by live5 (Post 28498000)
DL is much, much better about getting me there on time.

I'm starting to wonder if this is the case with everyone but AA.

As I sat at FNT a few weeks ago and watched all the other UA and WN flights depart for ORD/MDW except AA's (due to "ATC issues" :rolleyes:), I had to shake my head.

rbAA Jun 28, 2017 9:21 pm

Well, I think it's been AA who is walking away from their regular customers in search of bigger fish. If they had a decent enough product and CS they might just pull it off. However, these recent changes have been a motivation to try other airlines, plus my move to BKK from China makes alternatives look better. So, found something better at a reasonable cost and I'll only fly on AA metal the minimum needed to burn SWU's. I always look at the competition for my domestic segments-so far it's AA 4 segments, UA 2 and Frontier 1. Next trip coming up is on *A in business. Probably not as good as the QR business I'm in the middle of now, but variety is always a good thing. Still prefer the AAdvantage program and it's actually cheaper to reach EXP than it's been in a long time.

oysterhead43 Jun 28, 2017 10:05 pm

They all suck.

rjw242 Jun 28, 2017 10:06 pm


Originally Posted by oysterhead43 (Post 28498562)
They all suck.

My expectations have never been unmet on an LCC. :)

The smallest state Jun 28, 2017 10:33 pm


Originally Posted by cova (Post 28497936)
Some of us still are earning EXP with no business travel. It is still not that hard to do.

I do heavy travel the first 3 months of the year - about 50% real trips, 50% - overnight trips. Already have EXP for next year. I am helped with the CC bonuses of $6K EQD and 20K EQM - but will still be flying more.

If you play the game - EXP is $6K EQD and 80K EQM, and you can earn the $6K EQD by flying 60,000 miles regardless of what you paid for your ticket.

I apologize, the mistake is mine. I've read this twice and I'm confused. The reason I've never gotten the CC is thinking only the one time bonus is good, nothing much after that.

Do you earn EQM's and EQD's on regular spend? Or is it simply the opening bonus?

xliioper Jun 28, 2017 11:31 pm


Originally Posted by The smallest state (Post 28498619)
I apologize, the mistake is mine. I've read this twice and I'm confused. The reason I've never gotten the CC is thinking only the one time bonus is good, nothing much after that.

Do you earn EQM's and EQD's on regular spend? Or is it simply the opening bonus?

You can earn regular EQM for spend with the AA Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (10K EQM for $40K spend)
https://secure.fly.aa.com/citi/direc...=citiexecutive

And you can earn regular EQD offsets with the AA Barclaycard Aviator Mastercard's. See wiki at following --
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...t-details.html

grbauctions Jun 28, 2017 11:49 pm


Originally Posted by Stripe (Post 28495466)
I think the point here (perhaps) is that in the past the AAdvantage program would have tipped someone like the OP to stick with AA, despite his changed travel patterns. With the demise of that program, what he's done makes complete sense. If you're going to travel in Y anyway, then AA is one of the less comfortable options and, from BOS, probably one of the less convenient ones. And if you're going to buy F then DL is usually cheaper and more reliable. In general I'd give AA the nod (slightly) for meals in F and (on the LAA planes) more generous room, but that's doesn't overcome the other DL advantages And for overseas the gulf carriers are hard to beat.

I buy a lot of FC tickets and I can say when it does come time to spend the miles Delta is awful. AA is miles better on the available mileage awards and earning is about the same to me.

On domestic flights delta service and consistently better but not by the miles some claim.

grbauctions Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm


Originally Posted by rbAA (Post 28498472)
Well, I think it's been AA who is walking away from their regular customers in search of bigger fish. If they had a decent enough product and CS they might just pull it off. However, these recent changes have been a motivation to try other airlines, plus my move to BKK from China makes alternatives look better. So, found something better at a reasonable cost and I'll only fly on AA metal the minimum needed to burn SWU's. I always look at the competition for my domestic segments-so far it's AA 4 segments, UA 2 and Frontier 1. Next trip coming up is on *A in business. Probably not as good as the QR business I'm in the middle of now, but variety is always a good thing. Still prefer the AAdvantage program and it's actually cheaper to reach EXP than it's been in a long time.

Agree^

josmul123 Jun 29, 2017 1:01 am


Originally Posted by brewdog11 (Post 28498428)
I'm starting to wonder if this is the case with everyone but AA.

As I sat at FNT a few weeks ago and watched all the other UA and WN flights depart for ORD/MDW except AA's (due to "ATC issues" :rolleyes:), I had to shake my head.

God, that flight is a nightmare. I think my helix score is a 4 or 5 just based on the fact that they cancel this flight about 90% of the times I book it (FlyerTalk Disclaimer: This is a joke. I know Helix scores are based on more than just this).

Hoc Jun 29, 2017 5:57 am


Originally Posted by 869 (Post 28494702)
That's one way to put it. I'm sitting here tonight wondering if I should even renew EXP this year

After spending multiple years as an EXP, and most of the last year as an EXP with virtually no upgrades, as well as my last flight across the Atlantic, booked in business (and charged for business) but seated in Y with no ability to move to business over the past year, I have to agree that being EXP on AA is no longer worth it. For many years, it offered the best benefits of any program. Enough that I would do a few extra flights a year to keep the status. But now, the benefits seem to be gone, so no extra flights for me. From now on, it's just what is the most cost-effective flight on any airline, and hope that there is a decent price available in J.

knit-in Jun 29, 2017 6:14 am


Originally Posted by grbauctions (Post 28498756)
I buy a lot of FC tickets and I can say when it does come time to spend the miles Delta is awful. AA is miles better on the available mileage awards and earning is about the same to me.

That has been my experience also on the awards that I am usually in the hunt for. AA miles are much easier to use than DL's-- and the routes I travel most often on, about 40% cheaper at the Saver level.


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