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Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 28250154)

AFAIK, Philippines is the only airline that has as bad a J hard product. They pack them in 2/2/2 on A330 with bunk bed seating. Considering J, imagine Y. Each alliance has the step-chuld so to speak. Philippines is the drunk uncle no one wants. At least from what ive read i dont see any of the alliances wanting them.

I read the same thing. Basically nobody wants them. PLEASE don't read that in an anti-Phillipino way, it is strictly a business decision that is being indicated.

I am missing something in this thread too. If I fly to NRT and then connect on a JL flight to Manila, I do or do not get AA airmiles?

There's an application to codeshare these flight but none still point directly between the US and the Philippines just yet:

American/AA code on flights operated by PAL/PR metal:
Manila - Honolulu
Manila - Guam
Manila - Tokyo
Cebu - Tokyo

PAL/PR code on flights operated by American/AA metal:
Los Angeles - Atlanta
Los Angeles - Denver
Los Angeles - Houston
Los Angeles - Las Vegas
Los Angeles - Miami
Los Angeles - New Orleans
Los Angeles - Orlando
Los Angeles - Washington, DC

https://www.regulations.gov/document...yMn6JTOi3iIdaU

More readings here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhor.../#59bc69033346
https://community.infiniteflight.com...-united/410663

This may be a good time to resurrect this thread, given UA's recent SFO-MNL announcement.

UA formally withdrew its objections to the AA/PR codeshare efforts: https://www.regulations.gov/document...2020-0033-0008

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July 18, 2023
MOTION OF UNITED AIRLINES, INC.
United hereby moves for leave to withdraw its objections to the following applications:

Application of Air Philippines d/b/a PAL Express and Philippine Airlines for Manila-Guam Codesharing (Nov. 6, 2019). See Docket DOT-OST-2019-0156.
Application of Philippine Airlines (PAL) for exemption from 40 USC § 41310 to provide scheduled foreign air transportation of persons, property, and mail between Manila, Philippines, and Seattle, Washington (Jan. 27, 2020). See Docket DOT-OST-2020-0012.
Joint Application of American Airlines, Inc. and Philippine Airlines, Inc. for Statements of Authorization, Exemptions, and an Amended Exemption (Mar. 17, 2020). See Dockets DOT-OST-2020-0033 and DOT-OST-2009-0337.

While United did not oppose in principle the authority sought in any of the above applications, United had objected to the applications to the extent they would allow Philippine carriers to continue to expand their Manila schedules while other carriers could not.

Now that UA withdrew these objections, do you think AA and PR will resume the codesharing efforts soon?