Originally Posted by mmjaysee (Post 28239397)

Is there a known reason why AA doesn't codeshare to MNL? I've been trying to get a J ticket through my work travel agent and not having the codeshare is making it quite challenging to book, not to mention way less miles because the connecting leg on either JL or CX doesn't earn very many EQDs.

Originally Posted by d3vi0uz (Post 28246263)

I really wish a Philippine airlines was with an alliance with AA or DL. Seems like Philippines is the only Asian country that doesn't have an airline in an alliance, and I would think they would by now or at least partnered with one of the Big 3 given the two countries extensive history and relationship.

Originally Posted by MikeFromTokyo (Post 28247828)

But, I fail to see the dilemma here. Why not just book a JL or CX connection, for example? The code share simply doesn't exist, so no use fretting about it.

Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 28246747)

As noted above, legally they couldn't. Also, DL has service to MNL through NRT.

Originally Posted by d3vi0uz (Post 28248266)

What law is preventing a Philippines airline from being in Star Alliance, SkyTeam, or OW?

And DL flying to NRT to MNL is irrelevant to the above.

Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 28248358)

Have you read the whole thread? Also my reply was in reply to your statement in which you list DL. DL doesn't need a codeshare partner since they fly there.

As for codeshare issue till very recently the Philippines was a category 2 rated. Prevented them from codesharibg with US carrier.

Originally Posted by IggySD (Post 28248878)

Per the previous post they received a Category 1 in 2014. That's not what I would consider very recently. The Category 2 may have prevented codeshares with Phillipine based airlines but it shouldn't have prevented AA from codesharing on a JL or CX flight.

Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 28248358)

Have you read the whole thread? Also my reply was in reply to your statement in which you list DL. DL doesn't need a codeshare partner since they fly there.

As for codeshare issue till very recently the Philippines was a category 2 rated. Prevented them from codesharibg with US carrier.

Originally Posted by IggySD (Post 28248878)

Per the previous post they received a Category 1 in 2014. That's not what I would consider very recently. The Category 2 may have prevented codeshares with Phillipine based airlines but it shouldn't have prevented AA from codesharing on a JL or CX flight.

Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 28249111)

Only if those airlines agreed to extra security do i think they could be codeshared. Also in terms of striking an agreement 2014 is not that long ago, only 3 years ago. Its not like they were in an alliance with waiting partner. Plus I'm not sure if anyone really wants to be assosciated with them. Check out their J class with bunk bed seats.

Originally Posted by MikeFromTokyo (Post 28247828)

It's too bad that the portrayal of AA 167 from JFK to Manila in the film "The Bourne Legacy" was fictional. That flight number was the now defunct JFK-NRT flight, on which the actors in reality would have had to connect to JL metal to get to MNL...

Originally Posted by d3vi0uz (Post 28249433)

Yes I have



Exactly, it's been 3 years.



This is why I'm curious Philippine Airlines hasn't gotten into one of the SA, ST, or OW.

There must be something other than a safety rating that was updated 3 years ago holding them back.

If it is a matter of soft/hard product then I'm not sure why Philippines Airlines is being singled out and left out since one could make the claim that the partner airlines in any of the big 3 alliances has just as good/bad product as PA.

Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 28250154)

AFAIK, Philippines is the only airline that has as bad a J hard product. They pack them in 2/2/2 on A330 with bunk bed seating. Considering J, imagine Y. Each alliance has the step-chuld so to speak. Philippines is the drunk uncle no one wants. At least from what ive read i dont see any of the alliances wanting them.