You should be able to access to the FL at both LAX and ORD. I had the similar situation and didn’t have any problem. They didn’t care about the 6am thing.

Your departing red eye is considered the next day for the purposes of the same day rule. It lands the next morning/day so basically the 830am flight is the same day so there is no 6am rule that even comes into play.

AA plat flying non J on LAX-LHR-FRA.

Will I have access to AA Flagship/Oneworld Lounge at LAX and BA lounges in LHR?

Much appreciated.

Yep.

Related to this, I booked SJC-LAX-MIA and back for next weekend. I booked this a while back, and both LAX-MIA (77W) and MIA-LAX (772) were Flagship at the time. Fast forward to recently and LAX-MIA is still 77W, but LAX-MIA now has no 77X Flagship options on our return date.

Since this was sold at Flagship, is there an argument for Flagship lounge access in MIA and LAX even though it is no longer Flagship? I asked at the DFW FL this past weekend and the agent indicated that it may be coded as such in the BP and it may not. If not, any recourse?

Really an academic argument for us, specifically, since we have BA Silver (Sapphire) status and get FL access on all domestic flights. But this is more a curiosity question as to how they handle this when one purchases Flagship and the change is made by AA.

Cheers.

Should tickets/BPs reflect "Flagship" status?
 

I'll be flying with AA in October, DUB-CLT-LGA and then ORD-LHR-DUB. My itinerary is in fare class I (Business), with the LHR-DUB operated by BA in J. Nowhere does it say on my ticket/receipt/confirmation email that the ticket is Flagship ®, it just says Business (First for CLT-LGA). Will I have access to the AdmiralsClub in CLT and the Flagship lounge in ORD based on this ticket?

I am also BA Silver/oneworld sapphire, so I believe I'd get in anyway, even if I were traveling in Y, but I'm curious to know if your ticket/BP needs to show Flagship ® in order to give you access to the Flagship Lounge if you don't have status...

Thank you!

No, any longhaul business class on AA is considered "Flagship" and good for FL access regardless of whether the boarding pass or email receipt or anything else says "Flagship" or not.

So in your case no problem to access the AC at CLT (no FL there) and the FL ar ORD on your return. As you mentioned you'd have access anyways as a oneworld Sapphire.

Honestly AA has done a poor job of marketing the whole "Flagship" concept to the point of making things more confusing than they need be, especially if you're new to AA. Sometimes flights are clearly listed as Flagship and other times they're not, sometimes the rules are written as if it needs to be Flagship and other times they're not, etc.

It's almost as bad as United was with their First, Business First and Global First nonsense.

I don't understand why they don't just say flat bed = Flagship. Yes, there will be a handful of extra people who make it in to the FL on the random domestic widebody, but it's so much simpler than this mess. It's basically the same as the current rules, since shallow south America and Central America don't qualify anymore.

AA do something that makes sense and simplifies things...........hahahaha :)

Once you knew the difference it wasn't very confusing at all:

First: US domestic, no lounge
Business: North, Central and select South America shorthaul flights, UC access on departures, connections and on arrival.
BusinessFirst: J class on Longhaul flights, same lounge policy as business
GlobalFirst: Their real, 3 cabin F. Access to the GlobalFirst Lounge on terms as above.

Luckily UA caught their senses with the Polaris launch and it's much clearer now, but even still the UA lounge access threads have the same questions from (understandably so) confused people.

They did this recently by rolling out the "Loyalty" points program. Were you unaware of this?

Does the same rule apply to the domestic transcons?

E.g. I'm seeing an itinerary XXX-LAX-BOS that is NOT advertised as "Flagship" but has the lie-flats... does that get me into the FL lounge since it's Business on a designated LAX-BOS flight despite not being marketed as Flagship anywhere on the purchase page?

Perhaps it is due to the connecting flight (or a B6 codeshare), but LAX-BOS is flagship and grants access to the FL (have used the LAX FL several times this year). It is also listed on the access page. Another way to check is to look at booking LAX-BOS; it will show up as a flagship route.

Cool cool, I thought maybe the connecting flight somehow illogically removed FL if it's not explicitly listed in the booking. Thanks. (The connecting flight is also AA, so who knows why it's not listed as such)

I'm traveling on separate tickets BOS-LAX on AA doesn't look like I'll be getting upgrade to business but connecting to Qantas LAX-SYD later that evening as OW Emerald (AS 75K). If I can't check in online due to covid procedure, will print out of Qantas reservation be sufficient to gain access or do I have to wait for check in counter to open and get boarding pass?