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kcaluwae Sep 11, 2015 2:57 pm

4 AA planes standing at EZE
 
Just arrived in EZE. Surprised to see 4 AA planes standing there. All in new livery, one in OW livery, none of them standing at a gate. It was 4 PM. Looked like they were just parked there.

Does anybody know why AA has so many planes at EZE. This is more than they need for their operations I would think.

ty97 Sep 11, 2015 3:18 pm

AA has four daily EZE flights: 2 from MIA, 1 from DFW, 1 from JFK. All four arrive in the morning (roughly between 8 and 10am) and sit in EZE all day before departing back to the US in the evening (roughly between 8pm and midnight).

jerry a. laska Sep 11, 2015 3:32 pm

AA909 arrived EZE 9/11/15 909am art
AA997 arrived EZE 9/11/15 1001am art
AA931 arrived EZE 9/11/15 1020am art
AA953 arrived EZE 9/11/15 116pm art

AA900 departs EZE 9/11/15 at 800pm art
AA908 departs EZE 9/11/15 at 1115pm art
AA996 departs EZE 9/11/15 at 820pm art
AA954 departs EZE 9/11/15 at 930pm art

kcaluwae Sep 11, 2015 6:56 pm

Thanks, I only found the MIA flights.
EZE seems to be a good market for AA whilst other carriers like BA are cutting back due to the economic condition of the country.

JonNYC Sep 11, 2015 7:10 pm


Originally Posted by kcaluwae (Post 25412528)
Thanks, I only found the MIA flights.
EZE seems to be a good market for AA whilst other carriers like BA are cutting back due to the economic condition of the country.

As AA undoubtedly will as well soon enough.

ijgordon Sep 11, 2015 8:40 pm

4 AA planes standing at EZE
 
Well, I can't help but wonder then why it's so darn difficult to find a sAAver award to EZE (while GRU/GIG seems a bit easier).

F&B767 Sep 13, 2015 1:10 pm

AA has a pretty long history in EZE. Years ago they actually owned a significant share of AR and were tasked with helping run the airline but AR was nationalized so that relationship came to an end. From time to time AA operates five daily flights with three to MIA and one of those being a day time flight. Up until three years ago they also operated a daily flight to MVD on a 767 or 777, that was always a fun 25 minute flight on a

Nowadays with US management and their operational focus they are doing maintenance while the planes sit all day. Actually investing quite a bit in spare parts inventory and training.

ijgordon Sep 13, 2015 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by F&B767 (Post 25419165)
Up until three years ago they also operated a daily flight to MVD on a 767 or 777, that was always a fun 25 minute flight on a

That was a tag-on flight I believe, right? Now they fly n/s MIA-MVD so it isn't necessary.

viking737 Sep 13, 2015 5:47 pm


Originally Posted by ijgordon (Post 25419521)
That was a tag-on flight I believe, right? Now they fly n/s MIA-MVD so it isn't necessary.

That is correct.

F&B767 Sep 13, 2015 8:14 pm

Correct. Used an EZE based crew that just flew over, sat in a hotel all day, and then flew back. Now an Air France 777-300 flies the route.

MAH4546 Sep 14, 2015 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by JonNYC (Post 25412555)
As AA undoubtedly will as well soon enough.

AA already cut back. DFWEZE is going (did go?) to 787 and MIAEZE is only twice daily now, instead of 3x.

Rock Harders Sep 14, 2015 9:28 pm


Originally Posted by MAH4546 (Post 25423938)
Quote:





Originally Posted by JonNYC


As AA undoubtedly will as well soon enough.




AA already cut back. DFWEZE is going (did go?) to 787 and MIAEZE is only twice daily now, instead of 3x.

The MIA-EZE daytime flight is only operated seasonally during the austral summer, so the fact that it's not operating currently does not qualify as a cutback. That being said, given the deteriorating FX situation in Argentina I would not be surprised if AA dumped DFW-EZE entirely (least demand of the three USA-EZE flights) and discontinued the seasonal MIA-EZE daytime flight. The BCRA is almost out of liquid reserves and is not allowing airlines to repatriate proceeds of sales.

jona970318 Sep 15, 2015 8:01 am

I wonder if this is the best way to utilize their aircraft. I found this similar situation with many long-haul routes in the AA network. Take HKG for example, the 77W sits on the ground at HKG for around 20 hours. You'd think that they could serve more frequencies with less aircraft with better utilization...

anc305 Sep 15, 2015 8:35 am


Originally Posted by Rock Harders (Post 25426524)
The MIA-EZE daytime flight is only operated seasonally during the austral summer, so the fact that it's not operating currently does not qualify as a cutback. That being said, given the deteriorating FX situation in Argentina I would not be surprised if AA dumped DFW-EZE entirely (least demand of the three USA-EZE flights) and discontinued the seasonal MIA-EZE daytime flight. The BCRA is almost out of liquid reserves and is not allowing airlines to repatriate proceeds of sales.

I don't think they will dump the DFW flight anytime soon. It goes to a 777 on Nov. 5 thru EOS. They are also selling First. I believe there are quite a few Asian connections. It also has good connections from MAD , FRA , CDG , AND LHR on 777s. Nice use of EVIP from J - F

upinsmoke Sep 15, 2015 8:45 am


Originally Posted by Rock Harders (Post 25426524)
The MIA-EZE daytime flight is only operated seasonally during the austral summer, so the fact that it's not operating currently does not qualify as a cutback. That being said, given the deteriorating FX situation in Argentina I would not be surprised if AA dumped DFW-EZE entirely (least demand of the three USA-EZE flights) and discontinued the seasonal MIA-EZE daytime flight. The BCRA is almost out of liquid reserves and is not allowing airlines to repatriate proceeds of sales.

I'm sure AA is closely watching the elections this fall. Two of the 3 major candidates have said they will remove currency controls.

The DFW down-gauge to a 787 is also seasonal, with the austral summer going back to 772.

Given that, I wouldn't expect any move from AA to reduce EZE service until the political situation clears up. Flights are yielding well (try finding Saavers to EZE!), the economic situation is not going off the cliff like Brazil is, and OneWorld owns the market now that the LAN/TAM group is part of OneWorld.


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