Traveling with Newborn (AA Edition)
#16
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SFO/MSP
Programs: 1K, Diamond
Posts: 171
Congrats-
My husband and I have a now 6 month old. We buy tickets for him. He's now gold and started flying mid-May, with upcoming AZ, HI, & CA trips.
A few practical tips/experiences:
-I always pack 6 full bottles; you never know what delays will occur (ahem, IDBed from confirmed 1st).
-We've always been upgraded except for a last minute trip, and I always get the 'look' from someone in 1st. I tried to be cognizant of LO's needs and respectful. Generally, people are complimenting his behavior by the end of the flight.
-Know how your stroller works by practicing in advance and utilize to your advantage for hauling all the stuff. We have the UPPAbaby Vista and have never had an issue with it getting weighed.
-Given seating issues, try to work in advance to get your seats together, particularly with upgrades. Some agents are super helpful, others not at all (Admirals Club rep who suggested I ask another passenger to watch the baby since we weren't seated together and also told me it was "illegal" for him to change someone's seat). Some will suggest just switching on the plane, and I normally suggest that will likely slow down the boarding process. That normally works.
-We've had to change seats on the 737-800 from the bulkhead in 1st, because the seat belts have padding that won't work with car seat.
-It's clearly not common for babies to have a seat, and I usually have to tell check-in agents several times that my son has a seat. Multiple times they've tried to make him a lap child.
-Never had a FA ask to see the approved label until we flew home on Trans States (LGA-CMH). She absolutely insisted on seeing the label even though LO was sleeping, and it's located on the underside.
-Admirals Club membership is always nice for finding a corner to let the LO stretch/play and for diaper changing.
As an aside: flying to FL on first trip and US FA said in all of her years flying she couldn't recall a baby with its own seat in 1st. :-:
My husband and I have a now 6 month old. We buy tickets for him. He's now gold and started flying mid-May, with upcoming AZ, HI, & CA trips.
A few practical tips/experiences:
-I always pack 6 full bottles; you never know what delays will occur (ahem, IDBed from confirmed 1st).
-We've always been upgraded except for a last minute trip, and I always get the 'look' from someone in 1st. I tried to be cognizant of LO's needs and respectful. Generally, people are complimenting his behavior by the end of the flight.
-Know how your stroller works by practicing in advance and utilize to your advantage for hauling all the stuff. We have the UPPAbaby Vista and have never had an issue with it getting weighed.
-Given seating issues, try to work in advance to get your seats together, particularly with upgrades. Some agents are super helpful, others not at all (Admirals Club rep who suggested I ask another passenger to watch the baby since we weren't seated together and also told me it was "illegal" for him to change someone's seat). Some will suggest just switching on the plane, and I normally suggest that will likely slow down the boarding process. That normally works.
-We've had to change seats on the 737-800 from the bulkhead in 1st, because the seat belts have padding that won't work with car seat.
-It's clearly not common for babies to have a seat, and I usually have to tell check-in agents several times that my son has a seat. Multiple times they've tried to make him a lap child.
-Never had a FA ask to see the approved label until we flew home on Trans States (LGA-CMH). She absolutely insisted on seeing the label even though LO was sleeping, and it's located on the underside.
-Admirals Club membership is always nice for finding a corner to let the LO stretch/play and for diaper changing.
As an aside: flying to FL on first trip and US FA said in all of her years flying she couldn't recall a baby with its own seat in 1st. :-:
#17
Join Date: May 2004
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 1,204
Congrats and thanks for the timely thread as we have 5 months old twins. I know how you feel as we are preparing for their first flight in October and have been doing research and reading a lot. We simply refuse to let them slow down our air travel. LOL.
Good luck to OP and safe travel.
Good luck to OP and safe travel.
#18
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
Posts: 4,548
When our kids were bigger- 2 month olds you cannot do much- but say 6m to a 5,6 years, we would have a stock of new, never-before-seen toys for them in our bags. A new toy, book, game, whatever will almost always command some attention and/or deflect some behavior. Anywhere for one or two for a short trip down to LA, up to half a dozen across the country.
#19
Join Date: May 2004
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 1,204
When our kids were bigger- 2 month olds you cannot do much- but say 6m to a 5,6 years, we would have a stock of new, never-before-seen toys for them in our bags. A new toy, book, game, whatever will almost always command some attention and/or deflect some behavior. Anywhere for one or two for a short trip down to LA, up to half a dozen across the country.
#20
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,558
Traveling with Newborn (AA Edition)
For those commenting on lap children and O2 masks, there are procedures already put into place. On most mainline a/c there is an extra mask in every row. Being that there's only one extra mask that means that if the row is fully occupied then you can't have more than one lap child in it. This is usually only a problem with people traveling with twins or 2 kids under 2 years of age. Simple solution is to book aisles across from each other so at least you're still close to each other.
#21
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: SFO
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Posts: 696
For those commenting on lap children and O2 masks, there are procedures already put into place. On most mainline a/c there is an extra mask in every row. Being that there's only one extra mask that means that if the row is fully occupied then you can't have more than one lap child in it. This is usually only a problem with people traveling with twins or 2 kids under 2 years of age. Simple solution is to book aisles across from each other so at least you're still close to each other.
For those who think having enough oxygen masks for every passenger is not important, then why bother at all? Why not just have one mask per row, if it's not that critical? Do Mesa flights simply never go high enough for it to matter?
#22
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 5,951
Finally, any best practices tips. As I'm EXP, it has automatically put us on the upgrade list, my wife is a bit hesitant about that, but I also informed her that our regular seats are 7A/7B so if the kid cries, it's going to be unpleasant for all regardless, so we'll just have to see how we feel day of. The extra room and quicker access to the front galley might be beneficial, but I also told her if the kid is crying, I'd be happy to walk him to the back of the plane and bounce him or what not til he is calmed down. Although I expect the vibration and noises to keep him fairly calm just by his current nature.
Three months old is a great age to travel with the kiddo! In about a three week span at that age, we did SYD-AKL-SYD, SYD-LAX-DCA, DCA-SEA, SEA-BOS, then MSN-MSP-LAX-SYD. All no trouble at all. The flight attendants tend to go out of their way to be helpful, perhaps especially to a dad who's walking with the kiddo in back.
It's still not at all bad traveling with the kiddo at 1.5 years, but not nearly as easy since she wants to walk up and down the aisle and is too independent to be content to be held for long stretches.
Congratulations and enjoy!
#23
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
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Posts: 5,951
I'm surprised that Mesa would allow that at all. Unless you're traveling for emergency infant surgery, no flight is worth risking your child's safety. I would hope there are no parents that care about their child (or their own lives) so little that they would risk traveling without sufficient oxygen masks for everyone. It's just not worth it -- no trip is that important. And I wouldn't think Mesa would want the liability associated with allowing that.
Perhaps Kate2015 meant that Mesa will let you sit on the AB side with a lap infant if there's only one adult on the AB side (so there are two passengers and two masks)?
#24
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
Posts: 4,548
This is what all airlines should do (at least, if they're going to allow lap children), that's why I find Mesa's behavior puzzling.
For those who think having enough oxygen masks for every passenger is not important, then why bother at all? Why not just have one mask per row, if it's not that critical? Do Mesa flights simply never go high enough for it to matter?
For those who think having enough oxygen masks for every passenger is not important, then why bother at all? Why not just have one mask per row, if it's not that critical? Do Mesa flights simply never go high enough for it to matter?
There may be an extra mask on the other side, or bottled oxygen or..or..or.
It beggars belief that FAA would allow a situation where kids will die...and that the 'solution' is not to fly that airline- or to imply that people are bad parents for flying mesa.
#25
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: AUS, LAX
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Thanks to all, my wife poured over the advice and has planned around it.
Today is the big day. My upgrade cleared, but there was an issue with my wife's upgrade being dropped when the agent added the birthdate of the lap child. I called this morning, and they were able to re-enter the original June 2nd request date. Given that I cleared at 1am and requested at the same time, I suppose she's next in line. There are at least 4 seats for sale (and more available via seat map) per the agent. Now we're just waiting it out.
Hopefully it's a non-affair as we're a little anxious. Within the past week he has developed a new skill in screaming at new frequencies, let's hope nobody on the flight experiences what we call, "the pterodactyl scream".
Today is the big day. My upgrade cleared, but there was an issue with my wife's upgrade being dropped when the agent added the birthdate of the lap child. I called this morning, and they were able to re-enter the original June 2nd request date. Given that I cleared at 1am and requested at the same time, I suppose she's next in line. There are at least 4 seats for sale (and more available via seat map) per the agent. Now we're just waiting it out.
Hopefully it's a non-affair as we're a little anxious. Within the past week he has developed a new skill in screaming at new frequencies, let's hope nobody on the flight experiences what we call, "the pterodactyl scream".
#26
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SFO/MSP
Programs: 1K, Diamond
Posts: 171
Thanks to all, my wife poured over the advice and has planned around it.
Today is the big day. My upgrade cleared, but there was an issue with my wife's upgrade being dropped when the agent added the birthdate of the lap child. I called this morning, and they were able to re-enter the original June 2nd request date. Given that I cleared at 1am and requested at the same time, I suppose she's next in line. There are at least 4 seats for sale (and more available via seat map) per the agent. Now we're just waiting it out.
Hopefully it's a non-affair as we're a little anxious. Within the past week he has developed a new skill in screaming at new frequencies, let's hope nobody on the flight experiences what we call, "the pterodactyl scream".
Today is the big day. My upgrade cleared, but there was an issue with my wife's upgrade being dropped when the agent added the birthdate of the lap child. I called this morning, and they were able to re-enter the original June 2nd request date. Given that I cleared at 1am and requested at the same time, I suppose she's next in line. There are at least 4 seats for sale (and more available via seat map) per the agent. Now we're just waiting it out.
Hopefully it's a non-affair as we're a little anxious. Within the past week he has developed a new skill in screaming at new frequencies, let's hope nobody on the flight experiences what we call, "the pterodactyl scream".
Has destination maps and plane types listed, too.
#27
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: AUS, LAX
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One more thing-- I didn't know the particular item existed/nor was I willing to inquire about trinkets for kids. Yesterday, an AMAZING crew (praise sent in already), was somewhat surprised we didn't have a Junior Aviator Logbook. It's cute, and ours would have needed an expansion pack already had we known about it from the start.
Has destination maps and plane types listed, too.
Has destination maps and plane types listed, too.
#28
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SFO/MSP
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Posts: 171
#29
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Posts: 3,049
You must use an extender with those seats if you do want to use a car seat as it disables the air-bag.
#30
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: AUS, LAX
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I'm on a mainline 737-8 today, not necessarily an old legacy route, nor does the route usually have the most seasoned FAs (and by seasoned, I mean tenure), but they do generally have good service and professional FAs.