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matrixwalker2012 Dec 16, 2017 10:41 pm


Originally Posted by rollthere (Post 29183029)
There was a lot of talk that the LAX-MIA route justified something special due to the entertainment industry premium demand and AA ran a decent mix of widebodies for quite a while. Now however they decided to just send nearly hourly 737s due to the total lack of competition. At least LAX-JFK has UA and DL offering a decent product to compete but to Miami the only true competition with a superior premium product is B6 and VX out of Fort Lauderdale. The only thing that will force any airline to upgrade its offering is competition and none of the routes you cite provide any true competition for AA premium customers, thus we can expect to see plenty more brand-new planes with no amenities and tighter pitch. Just look at how they have outfitted the new 737 Max. What an embarrassment for a brand-new plane for the next 25 years!

LAX-MIA had a 77W for a while because the plane needed to reposition to service the LAX-SYD flights. Since it had the premium product already and there was some premium demand, it wasn’t a stretch to upgrade it to the flagship transcon service.

JonNYC Dec 16, 2017 10:49 pm


Originally Posted by rollthere (Post 29183029)
There was a lot of talk that the LAX-MIA route justified something special due to the entertainment industry premium demand and AA ran a decent mix of widebodies for quite a while. Now however they decided to just send nearly hourly 737s due to the total lack of competition.

1 flight a day (so far,) widebody is back:

platbrownguy Dec 16, 2017 10:52 pm


Originally Posted by NYCommuter (Post 29181882)
Flight 2183 today from JFK to DCA (leaving at 2:55 pm) is listed as being on an A321 (Sharklets) plane. The plane is great: a 3-class plane. Main Cabin Extra seats are like international business class, and first class has lie-flat seats. It’s an A321T.

Is this a rare equipment swap or does this flight usually have this great plane?
The plane was apparently used on a Boston-JFK flight before this one.

Thanks.

I had the same in August, incidentally after flying LAX-JFK in F on a 321T as well (I specifically chose to fly LAX-JFK-DCA so that I could sleep on the redeye, shower/do the FFD at JFK, rest on the JFK-DCA, and arrive into DCA reasonably refreshed--and it worked). I haven't seen many of these on the route though... would be a great connection option generally if it were a regular option.

MAH4546 Dec 17, 2017 2:49 am

AA is definitely losing MIALAX premium business to jetBlue, but JetBlue has so little capacity so far it's probably minimal impact. I haven't flown MIALAX since March. It's all Mint for me, even though FLL is a dump (like what MIA was in the late 90s). Don't even think AA bringing a better hard product to MIA will change me over (MIALAX still has the upgraded JFK soft product, even on the A321s, th Drunk Dougy has done a great job making that product worse even), JetBlue is far superior regardless.

ibrandsguest Dec 17, 2017 3:42 pm

Thanks for the feedback. This was really a wonderful plane and a wonderful surprise.

Curious why AA does this. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just use a regional jet for BOS-JFK-DCA segments on weekends and leave the A321T parked somewhere on weekends?

FlyerBeek Dec 17, 2017 3:46 pm

This flight (JFK-DCA-JFK) has been on the A321T (Saturdays only) for well over a year.

-FlyerBeek

dnbglobal Dec 17, 2017 4:34 pm

Also flew it, pleasantly surprised, last Saturday 12/9 on the way to connect with AA104 A nice change but the 1st cabin was very worn and tired. Still, nice to also avoid the dreaded gate 35X at DCA.

chix Dec 17, 2017 7:10 pm

A321T swap/Upg happened just now on BOS-DCA.... 2120. Scored sleeper seats as Plat.

chix Dec 18, 2017 3:31 pm


Originally Posted by NYCommuter (Post 29185547)
Thanks for the feedback. This was really a wonderful plane and a wonderful surprise.

Curious why AA does this. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just use a regional jet for BOS-JFK-DCA segments on weekends and leave the A321T parked somewhere on weekends?

Why park it when they can fill it?

babaghanoush85 Feb 10, 2018 9:18 am

First Class on AA Airbus 321 Transcon
 
My hope was to fly business class from NYC to SFO on AA. I've got 65,000 AA miles and 120,000 BA Avios. Since there's no availability in U , the only premium option would be shelling out 100,000 Avios for two tickets in first(50,000 each). I've read a lot of mixed reviews about their first class product and am not sure if it's worth it.
Any advice and/or suggestions are appreciated.

LINDEGR Feb 10, 2018 9:25 am

The service is so hit or miss it's hard for me to give a definitive answer. The seat and AVOD are great. Flagship check-in and Flagship dining make for a great ground experience. When I use miles, I always choose F over J for the small premium it costs.

DFW_CK Feb 10, 2018 9:26 am


Originally Posted by babaghanoush85 (Post 29401599)
My hope was to fly business class from NYC to SFO on AA. I've got 65,000 AA miles and 120,000 BA Avios. Since there's no availability in U , the only premium option would be shelling out 100,000 Avios for two tickets in first(50,000 each). I've read a lot of mixed reviews about their first class product and am not sure if it's worth it.
Any advice and/or suggestions are appreciated.

I detest/despise/hate the A321s - assuming you are referring to old junks that got brought over from the merger. No power....if you get a really junky one, the seats will suck...no entertainment. I was on a BOS to DFW this week (4 hour 20 min) flight and I was ready to slit my wrist by the end of it.

rjw242 Feb 10, 2018 9:34 am


Originally Posted by canuckshark (Post 29401625)
I detest/despise/hate the A321s - assuming you are referring to old junks that got brought over from the merger.

Incorrect. JFK to SFO/LAX are exclusively served by premium, legacy AA aircraft.

DFW_CK Feb 10, 2018 9:37 am


Originally Posted by rjw242 (Post 29401654)
Incorrect. JFK to SFO/LAX are exclusively served by premium, legacy AA aircraft.

Apologies! I stand corrected.

jspira Feb 10, 2018 9:51 am

The Flagship First Transcon product is something I fly with some degree of frequency. The seats (same as Flagship Business on the 777-300) are excellent given the 1-1 configuration, there's a cappuccino machine up front and the espresso or capuccino is served with really good biscotti, it's extremely quiet and relaxing, and I've never had a bad cabin crew.

A colleague of mine at FBT recently reviewed the product. Her review might be helpful.

American Airlines Flagship First New York-San Francisco – Flight Review


This was my first time on an American A321T and everything my colleagues have written about how comfortable the first-class seats are is confirmed. The seats are in a 1-1 configuration with gobs of personal space. I echo Frequent Business Traveler Editorial Director Jonathan Spira’s sentiment that flying up front on this plane has a private jet-like feel....
The designers of this seat gave serious thought to where to put things. The outlets for electrical plugs and USB are precisely where they should be, no hunting or bending down required. Ditto the three-prong connector for the lovely Bose noise-cancelling headphones AA provides. The small tablet that controls the seat’s in-flight entertainment system is brilliant, and the seat itself has three separate lights, all individually controlled.
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