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ssg10 Feb 23, 2016 8:39 pm

I saw an opening from CGK to NRT to LAX with JL(J) and AA(F) in sequence. For end of march departure.

If I ticket this and later NRT-LAX with JL F opens up, can I change?

ls Feb 23, 2016 9:18 pm

yes you can.

coolfish1103 Feb 25, 2016 3:30 am

So if I were to book seats for next Feb., should I attempt to get tickets with a random return date to secure the outbound dates and then change the inbound dates (since there is the 330-days rule? How do people get around?

arfaczar Feb 25, 2016 9:41 am


Originally Posted by coolfish1103 (Post 26240848)
So if I were to book seats for next Feb., should I attempt to get tickets with a random return date to secure the outbound dates and then change the inbound dates (since there is the 330-days rule? How do people get around?

Is there any reason that you wouldn't book only your outbound one-way for now? And later, book your inbound as another one-way when your preferred date becomes available.

TravelLawyer Feb 25, 2016 11:26 am


Originally Posted by arfaczar (Post 26242207)
Is there any reason that you wouldn't book only your outbound one-way for now? And later, book your inbound as another one-way when your preferred date becomes available.

Because redemption rates will go up mid-March. 331 days is ~ 11 months out. Booking in March will give him February 2017 seats.

kannon99 Feb 25, 2016 5:18 pm

Is anyone else having trouble pulling up JL award seats on BA? I have searched mutiple days in Jan 17 (330 days out) from several US cities to SIN/SGN. Just a few days ago I had no problem seeing J/F award seats.

arfaczar Feb 25, 2016 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by kannon99 (Post 26244461)
Is anyone else having trouble pulling up JL award seats on BA? I have searched mutiple days in Jan 17 (330 days out) from several US cities to SIN/SGN. Just a few days ago I had no problem seeing J/F award seats.

No JL availability showing on BA in the last 12+ hours. Hopefully, a temporary glitch.

WillTravel4Food Feb 25, 2016 8:12 pm

I'm looking to use up the last of my accrued miles taking a trip to Japan next fall. I want to book before the devaluation. I'll have about 75k miles to use on the trip. This means I'll be able to fly J in only one direction. I'll be going SEA-TYO. It looks like I can easily connect through YVR (JL788), LAX (AA788), or ORD (AA788). I have three questions.

1) Who has the better J seat, AA or JL? Should I prioritize experience (i.e., service) or comfort (i.e., lie flat to sleep on the redeye)?
2) Who has the better Y seat, AA or JL? Which will offer more space (AA 9-across v JL 8-across)? I would prefer an exit row.
3) Which direction should I select for the J flights? Do I choose exTYO on a redeye and the ability to actually sleep or exNA and the opportunity to enjoy the service?

moondog Feb 25, 2016 8:57 pm


Originally Posted by WillTravel4Food (Post 26245128)
I'm looking to use up the last of my accrued miles taking a trip to Japan next fall. I want to book before the devaluation. I'll have about 75k miles to use on the trip. This means I'll be able to fly J in only one direction. I'll be going SEA-TYO. It looks like I can easily connect through YVR (JL788), LAX (AA788), or ORD (AA788). I have two three questions.

1) Who has the better J seat, AA or JL? Should I prioritize experience (i.e., service) or comfort (i.e., lie flat to sleep on the redeye)?
2) Who has the better Y seat, AA or JL? Which will offer more space (AA 9-across v JL 8-across)? I would prefer an exit row.
3) Which direction should I select for the J flights? Do I choose exTYO on a redeye and the ability to actually sleep or exNA and the opportunity to enjoy the service?

75k isn't enough to do J one way (55k) and Y the other (35k).

Therefore, I suggest you focus on flying F (62.5k) in one direction, and figuring out something else (e.g. other miles or discounted ticket) in the reverse.

Personally, I would use the F segment on JL ex-TYO (surprisingly good airline food).

WillTravel4Food Feb 26, 2016 5:56 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 26245349)
75k isn't enough to do J one way (55k) and Y the other (35k).

Therefore, I suggest you focus on flying F (62.5k) in one direction, and figuring out something else (e.g. other miles or discounted ticket) in the reverse.

Personally, I would use the F segment on JL ex-TYO (surprisingly good airline food).

Japan is Asia 1, which requires 50K in J and 25K off-peak in Y. What you referenced is a mix of Asia 1 (in F) and Asia 2 (in J and Y) rates.

nldogbert Feb 26, 2016 6:09 am

Succeeded in getting a good award on the dates I wanted for 2 pax in Jan 2017 from SYD-TYO-LHR all the way in first.
Just hope that there will be no downgrade of aircraft type for the route (an upgrade of aircraft type is welcome :D)

I was actually surprised that availability on JL is actually not bad after all the hoo-ha about CX availability.

Cheers!

kannon99 Feb 27, 2016 6:04 pm


Originally Posted by kannon99 (Post 26244461)
Is anyone else having trouble pulling up JL award seats on BA? I have searched mutiple days in Jan 17 (330 days out) from several US cities to SIN/SGN. Just a few days ago I had no problem seeing J/F award seats.


JAL seats did start showing up on BA again, was able to snag two (F)SFO-HND seats and HND-SIN in J for travel in mid Jan 2017.

coolfish1103 Feb 28, 2016 7:24 am


Originally Posted by arfaczar (Post 26242207)
Is there any reason that you wouldn't book only your outbound one-way for now? And later, book your inbound as another one-way when your preferred date becomes available.

I thought it's cheaper in fees to book them as round trip? Also cause of the redemption devaluations.

I'll see what I can do and snatch one-ways first. Thank you for the advise.

aanswer Feb 28, 2016 10:33 am


Originally Posted by kannon99 (Post 26253967)
JAL seats did start showing up on BA again, was able to snag two (F)SFO-HND seats and HND-SIN in J for travel in mid Jan 2017.

Just snagged SFO-HND as well - for Saturday midnight :D

sonastride Feb 28, 2016 1:29 pm

Not sure if this the right thread but I booked a flight from JFK-NRT for April this year in business class. If a first class seat becomes available, is it possible to upgrade and if so how would I go about doing that? Sorry still a newbie here and this was my first award booking ever. Appreciate all the help!


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