ARCHIVE: LUS 757-200 / B75E ETOPS "East" (transat) [NONE LEFT Dec 2017]
 

This is the main thread for the US B757-200, the 'European' Version, which is used for TA flights as well as other domestic flights.

US Fleet Website (their website doesn't separate the different seating configurations, just lists the ranges of seats)

Seatguru: US 757-200 (version 2)

I just booked a PHX-PHL-PHX trip yesterday, and the PHL-PHX appears to be on the US 757-200, European version. It is listed as 3 rows of F, and from what I know, the Hawaii versions have 3-4 rows of F (I think 14 seats). And I think the older 757's only had 8 F seats, and it sounds like they're not in the fleet anymore.

This would be my first time on this version of the aircraft. Right now, I'm booked in seat 6D, an exit row, because Seatguru said that was good. Is that a good choice?

In the event I get upgraded, is there a particular seat in the F/Envoy cabin I should try for? Since it is a TA plane, I'd assume there is a coat closet so they don't need to hang them behind the last row of F like the A320 family.

1. Yes. Once a day they have been running a PHL-PHX-PHL turn with a US east 757 so it will have the Envoy recliner.

2. Correct. No more 8F 757's

3. 6D is my choice seat in Y on the 757. An aisle seat with enough leg room that you won't have to get up if your neighbor needs to get to the aisle.

4. I've sat in all rows in the front, window and aisle, and haven't found a seat that I like more than another. I'm 6'5", so I tend to be picky about where I sit but with 60" of pitch it just doesn't matter that much. I tend to go for row one, but that's just out of habit. I was in 2F last week and it was fine.

5. Yes. There is a closet.

Another regular, respected poster (now how's that for flattery?! :)) thinks 6D is a good seat (version 4 is similar to version 2)

3 F in Envoy on 757 200 TATL
 

Not a "green seat" on Seat Guru, but looks like a great seat - window AND aisle. Any experiences with this seat.

It's not an aisle seat. 3D is usually reserved as crew rest on some TATL flights (over 8h?) and not bookable online. My wife actually prefers 3F over 1A.

In Y, 6D & 7C are #1 for me, followed by 6E and 7B as a distant third. If these seats are not free, I'll happily book on another day. Avoid 7ADEF - they only have the disadvantages linked with exit seats (Protruding doors for the 7AF), not the nice things (no extra legroom for 7DE)

I was looking at seatguru the other day and noticed that they don't depict the 757's quite right so I thought I'd share that here. I have not been on the Hawaii birds yet (the second 757 listed as Vers. 1 with 14F seats) so I cannot speak for their accuracy but do have comments about the rest.

As fets answered before, seat 3D is there on all Envoy equipped 757's and is saved as a crew rest for longer flights. Domestically though, 3D is available and have seen people seated in it many times. However, I haven't been assigned it before so I don't know how you would go about getting it.

Like I mentioned in an earlier post, the first 757 Vers. 1 with 8F seats is no longer a configuration that US uses.

They got a couple things mixed together on Vers. 2 and 4. For Vers. 2 there is a lav instead of seats 5 ABC so 4 ABC have no/very reduced recline. The rest of Vers.2 is correct. Vers. 4 does have a 5 ABC so row 4 has regular recline unlike what they have listed and row 5 will have the reduced recline. The rest of Vers. 4 is correct. (with exception of 3D not being shown.)

I would like to revise what I said before about all Envoy seats being equal on this aircraft. I would advise against row 3 because of something that happened last month. They frequently put families with small children in row 4 and the bulkhead there stops about a foot and a half before the floor. A small girl, about 4 years old, had crawled under the bulkhead while her mom was asleep. I was in seat 3C fully reclined and fully asleep when I woke up to this girl, standing behind 3A, yanking on my winged headrest. Hey, kids will be kids and it's probably a rare occurrence, but I'd say if another row is available then go for it.

Selected 2 C over and 2 D back. Besides what you have said about row 3, they often run out of dinner choices by the last row if they start service in the front. I would have selected row 1 if it were available.

Personally, I prefer row two for legroom reasons. It's not as though row 1 is bad, but I can touch the bulkhead wall with my feet while reclined there.

Liked row 2 - C over and D back. Also am beginning to like the 757 - smaller, quicker boarding, quicker exit and more personal service in the business class section. Not a big fan of the video system, though.

US Airways 757-200 Version 4 Envoy Seat 3F
 

I am booked on a flight from PHL to Lisbon in June. I am confirmed for seat 3F. According to seatguru, seat 3F has a little less recline, but nevertheless, I'm drawn to the fact that there is no seat next to me. Has anyone ever sat in 3F on this version of a 757-200 transatlantic? There are open seats in 2F and 3A and 3C so I'm not sure if I should keep 3F. I've heard the second row isn't good because of the recline from row 1.

On the return trip, Madrid to PHL, on the A330-300, I'm confirmed for seat 1G, which I believe is an Envoy Sleeper seat. Any thoughts on this seat as well?

Thanks for your input!

There is a seat next to you, but it's blocked on the seat map for Crew Rest (Meaning a Pilot will sit there when they are on their break).

The only gripe I've ever heard is no control of a/c vents. But still a great seat.

Yikes! I had no idea and am so glad I asked! I'm not a fan of window seats on long flight! Thanks!

I'll keep the envoy sleeper since I'm usually cold on flights anyway so no air vent shouldn't be a problem.

domestic question
 

I am headed PHL-PHX on 1193
Website shows 752 with seatplan consistent with East ETOPS Envoy (3 rows F and the and the two empty rows 5/6A-C).

I called to UG with miles (would be worth it IMO) and I am told these are not envoy seats and there are only two rows F.

Where is the disconnect?
What would you do?

The website. If it's an East operated flight (the flt # says it is) it will be the ETOPS version of the 757. That's all East has left.

Jim

Thanks Jim
I'll go with the website

No Envoy upgrades - Coach seat selection strategy
 

I'm not going to be able to use my TA upgrades for a flight to BRU tomorrow on the 757. Oh well...good for US that they can sell those seats.

It looks like there are several rows that are currently unoccupied. Right now, I have an aisle, empty seat, and someone is in the window seat.

I'm wondering if it would be a good idea not only to move myself, but perhaps to move myself to a middle seat, hoping that no one would want to sit on either side of the middle and that I'd end up with the row to myself. The flight doesn't look like it will be completely full, so it seems likely I could move to a window or aisle if my plan fails.

Any strategies for a situation like this to get the best possible seating situation in a bad situation?

Don't do it. People can show up from out of the woodwork. Had that happen on more than one occasion.

Aisle plus empty nextdoor is tolerable. Can you ask them to block that seat?

Also, my recollection is that the front left exit row is sweet ... full stretch, not too hard to sleep. Call and beg for that ?

I'd thought about the exit, but I am not a fan of not being able to raise the armrests and losing part of the seat width to the larger armrests that hold the tray tables.

Something odd happned between last night and this morning: a ton of seats were assigned and now what used to be very sparsely occupied rows are full 3 x 3. Guess they had a bunch of people without seat assignments. So now I've got a full row. There is a "choice" row that is empty...maybe pay up for that in the hopes that it won't fill?

Why not? Are they saying that they haven't released inventory yet - or is the cabin full? I would call again 25 hours prior to the flight.

It has been "sold out" for the last few days. Prior to that, the seat maps showed full but I could have still bought an unrestricted Envoy ticket. I call each day on both legs just in case.

I think that is the cabin with just 11 seats. Hopefully something opens up at the last minute for you!

Thanks for the good wishes.

It worked!

C class worth it
 

On seat guru I notice the businesss class seats are recliner, so it does come across as relatively low in comfort. I fly LH and 9W a lot. Is this comparable or lower standard (seat, inflight entertainment,...) ? Any advice welcome

Here is info from the US website (click on the 757/A330-300 tab for a picture of the seats):

http://www.usairways.com/en-US/trave...nvoyclass.html

I've flown the 757 Envoy and the LH C seats. The LH C seats are better by a little but not a significant margin (not being true lay flats either). The service is similar (hope for a good US crew!).

I managed to clear with my CP certs both directions. A little on this aircraft and the service.

The interior of the plane is absolutely dreadful. The carpets and the carpet on the walls are stained. The crew is (or was on both of my flights) surly and lazy. I hate to use such a word, but it is very fitting. Empty wine glasses. No flexibility for a pax who didn't want the appetizer ("I'll have to take it off the tray and just throw it away then I guess since it all comes pre-assembled"...OH NO!). The AV is what it is.

I cannot imagine:
1. Burning a lot of miles to sit up there.
2. Riding in coach and having to watch "THE" movie...no on-demand stuff is a crime.
3. Paying whatever US is charging to ride in Envoy on this plane.

I was talking to one of the FA's about the aircraft and said that I couldn't imagine paying to ride up there and that they needed to be replaced with newer equipment. She told me that she worked there when the 757's came online and she hopes they never go away because they are such a good source of memories for her.

I think they need to get new crew when they get new equipment, and change both more frequently!

I have to agree, I was in envoy last month and in the middle of my movie, the screen froze. After telling the flight attendant who remarked "Oh no", and went back to his IPad game, I was stuck with watching the clouds go by for 5 hours and watching the crew use the two envoy crew rest seats to watch movies. I'm not begrudging them their rest, only that passenger nonworking units weren't a concern for anyone, nor did he even indicate he was going to write it up.

Food was surprisingly good and if I ever figure out how to post photos, I'll get them uploaded.

You should have been given a $150 voucher for the non-working AV in Envoy. The last time it happened to me, that is what I got.

I don't begrudge the resting crew, but the FA's that view their job as being the first and last 90 minutes of the flight are the pits.

I am heading PHL-SJU on Tuesday (same day RT). The flights are on East 757-200's.

I assume that is this is this plane. Correct?

Also, I was upgraded both ways. Can anyone give me a feel of what kind of experience to expect and some guidance on how to choose a seat (some are still open).

Thanks,

Yes, all the East 757s are this configuration now: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/US_..._757-200_B.php

You can tell it's an East 757 because the flight number will be higher than 700 (and the West 757s mainly do PHX-Hawaii).

I prefer anything in rows 2 or 3. Normally, I prefer the aisle over the window, but given the legroom on these, it's not usually a problem to get out to the restroom or to stretch your legs. Seats are the "Old Envoy" recliners found on the old config A330-300s that's currently being replaced by the suites.

It's more or less domestic F service.

Actually, flight 700 would be an East flight, although I don't think it matters on this route. Flight numbers under 700 are West flights.

Jim

Envoy On The 757???
 

If there's a thread on this, please direct me to it...

Looking to fly to Dublin in Envoy (752). I know it's single isle, but would appreciate any feedback regarding seat comfort, meals, best seats, etc...

The Envoy seats are from the A330 pre-suites. Meals should be about the same - there may be one less entree choice due to more limited galley space but someone else can comment on that.

Jim

Only with miles. Don't pay for it
 

Flew envoy back from Dublin two days ago.

The plane itself is just old. Interior not dirty but dingy. The seats are from the old A330 interiors. Cabin feels a bit cramped. I am 6'2 and I couldnt extend my legs fully while seat in upright position. Decent food - skip the pasta. Videos on the tiny portable viewers.

Better than coach, but not good enough to pay cash for.

PHL-DUB on 767 also
 

I got a chill down my spine seeing these posts and went back to check my own PHL-DUB for Sep 5-13. I was expecting it to be on a 767. US website does still show 767 on my dates (Wed-Thu) but 757 on the day before. Seems they switch equipment over to the 767 after Sep 4. Let's hope that really happens.

Not that the 767 is THAT much better but should be less claustrophobic. I've flown the international 757 to the Caribbean and a few domestic segments and thought the seats were uncomfortably narrow in the sitting position esp compared to standard US F seats.

(BTW-this trip is a result of using CP Envoy upgrade certs at the last minute in Feb)

Do you still get comp upgrades on domestic flights with this bird?

I'm on it CLT-BWI next month and it was showing this seat map.

Yes.

Any domestic/caribbean flight regardless of aircraft type is eligible for preferred upgrades.