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MAH4546 Jul 23, 2012 7:39 am

ARCHIVE: Airbus A321 Transcon / A321T / "32B" 3 class (consolidated 2012-2014)
 
A321 3 class ships are dedicated to JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO service at this time; they have 10F in 1 + 1 layout, 20J in 2 + 2, 72Y in 3 + 3 configuration (MCE rows 11-16); coded "321T" (32B on timetables). (Bulkhead row 11 has most legroom, but no window due to 3L and R doors.) All seats with 110 VAC and 5 VDC USB powered jacks. All Airbus narrow bodies and new delivery 738s (no word on retrofits) to get 15.4" / 39 cm PTVs with up to 200 movies, 180 television programs, 350 audio and 20 games; 8.9 inch PTVs in coach with free and paid content.

N.B. AA seems to be miscoding the two class A321 as "32B" in some timetables and itineraries; see 2-class 321 / A321 (miscoded 32B) added to the schedule (June 2014)

First delivery N101NN, Fleet No. 783, 21 Nov 2013.

AA118 Lv LAX 0700 Ar JFK 1530 Tue 7 Jan 2014 and AA133 Lv JFK 1545 Ar LAX 1925. SFO-LAX begins 6 Mar 2014.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/americ...132800106.html

MiamiFlyer Jul 23, 2012 7:47 am

ARCHIVE: Airbus A321 Transcon / A321T / "32B" 3 class (consolidated 2012-2014)
 
Like the layout in A321, but with F10, J20, Y+36, Y36, thats only 102 seats.

Wonder what the layout will be on the other A/C types...........

Hope they go A321 on FLL-LAX :D

Good job BRP


BigBopper Jul 23, 2012 7:47 am

Just glanced quickly but my first impressions are:

Wow, some of those new first class seats look extremely narrow.

The econ seats look like they have very little padding.

justforfun Jul 23, 2012 7:49 am

lie-flat in business as well. now that's impressive for a domestic aircraft.

ian001 Jul 23, 2012 7:50 am

This is the official AA media release which includes a video:

AA Media Release

And this is the dedicated webpage:

http://www.aa.com/i18n/urls/newplane...itle=newplanes

DFWsakp Jul 23, 2012 7:52 am

AA to introduce 3-class A321s; PTVs on domestic planes.
 
How exactly is AA going to make money on these flights with 72 coach seats? The 10 First class seats will be either filled with Non Revs, Awards or those 1-2 people who purchased the J seat and then got upgraded. The J cabin will be filled with 90% coach travelers who get upgraded to Business. Thus basically you will have about 90 people paying Coach fares and max 5 people paying J fares on the entire flight. Looks like AA will be heading to a second bankruptcy again in 2014/2015

sts603 Jul 23, 2012 7:53 am


Originally Posted by spsawant (Post 18984725)
How exactly is AA going to make money on these flights with 72 coach seats? The 10 First class seats will be either filled with Non Revs, Awards or those 1-2 people who purchased the J seat and then got upgraded. The J cabin will be filled with 90% coach travelers who get upgraded to Business. Thus basically you will have about 90 people paying Coach fares and max 5 people paying J fares on the entire flight. Looks like AA will be heading to a second bankruptcy again in 2014/2015

Thats simply inaccurate. These flights will only fly JFK-SFO-LAX where there is SUBSTANTIAL demand for both F and J at very high fares. On peak flights, J sells out routinely.

nickflies Jul 23, 2012 7:57 am

Harder to upgrade. Less spacious than 762s. There, I said it.

The F and J cabins look very nice, though. And MCE will be a good improvement over the awful Y cabin in the 762s.

justforfun Jul 23, 2012 8:02 am

agreed. upgrades on transcons will now be almost impossible. going from 30J to 20J just eliminated the excess inventory that elites needed, assuming the frequency of flights stays the same.

sts603 Jul 23, 2012 8:02 am


Originally Posted by nickflies (Post 18984757)
Harder to upgrade. Less spacious than 762s. There, I said it.

The F and J cabins look very nice, though. And MCE will be a good improvement over the awful Y cabin in the 762s.

A successful AA requires them to cater first to paid-premium fares, not upgraders.

Remember that there are only 72 Y upgrading into 20 J vs. 128 upgrading into 30 J.

jeffreyt Jul 23, 2012 8:04 am

And the fuel savings will be tremendous.

MiamiFlyer Jul 23, 2012 8:10 am

Less fuel carried = more booze carried ? :cool:

nickflies Jul 23, 2012 8:13 am


Originally Posted by sts603 (Post 18984790)
A successful AA requires them to cater first to paid-premium fares, not upgraders.

Remember that there are only 72 Y upgrading into 20 J vs. 128 upgrading into 30 J.

No doubt, re: catering to paid fares. Fair enough.

Also, good point on 72Y to 20J.

chanp Jul 23, 2012 8:13 am

Just saw on aa.com. great news

econometrics Jul 23, 2012 8:15 am

Fully lie-flat J seat on a transcon? Very nicely done, AA!


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