MIA/MCO gets subbed to 777/J sold as F
FL 2464 MIC/MCO switched from a 32B to a 777. Strange thing is that J is being sold as F (I'm in a J seat). Usually on these types of flights isn't J normally sold as Y? What a shame for a one hour flight.
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What I'm surprised about is that MCO ground staff is actually trained on the 777??!!
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Flight 2464 was upgauged to a 2-class 777 with no F cabin. If the J cabin was sold as Y, there would be no premium cabin.
Either way, a lie-flat bed with all-aisle access is still a great upgrade from the recliners on the standard 32B. |
Originally Posted by Clarkcc1
(Post 25152022)
What I'm surprised about is that MCO ground staff is actually trained on the 777??!!
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There go the bright minds of AA using this plane for a 35 minute flight :confused::confused:
There are 9 MIA-MCO a day so it's not really a matter of demand. I'm guessing this is the same plane going to GIG every day and this is just a re positioning flight but....MCO? |
It's possible that the plane needs to get to MCO for a charter or something. As for the ground crew, at least British Airways operates a 777 from London-Gatwick already, so MCO is certainly no stranger to 777s.
As for selling J as F — usually, two-class birds will have J as Y for elites/full-fares, while two-class will have J as F. This must be a retrofitted 777, which means there's only two classes. |
Originally Posted by roadwarrior84
(Post 25160423)
There go the bright minds of AA using this plane for a 35 minute flight :confused::confused:
There are 9 MIA-MCO a day so it's not really a matter of demand. I'm guessing this is the same plane going to GIG every day and this is just a re positioning flight but....MCO? MCO is a mainline fleet service station and does have container handling equipment, along with capable gates. |
Originally Posted by dungeonlurker
(Post 25160458)
... so MCO is certainly no stranger to 777s.
In February this year, I flew on a DL flight on MCO-ATL that had an equipment swap from a 767 to a 777. It was a sweet ride in First! |
Originally Posted by AAerSTL
(Post 25160748)
The plane would anyway be sitting and if another aircraft goes MX they can easily swap a 777, have reserve crews in MIA and it's a quick turn.
AA can do a quick turn on the plane and rather fly it to say JFK for aircraft utilization sake, it's less of a gamble for AA to fly a quick MIA-MCO. Especially with the dicey weather, and ATC delays that JFK has. Even if weather were to pop up, a delay is more manageable on a quick MIA-MCO hop. [especially with padding built into the schedule] Also the weather in MCO is usually less dicey than at JFK.
Originally Posted by AAerSTL
(Post 25160748)
MCO is a mainline fleet service station and does have container handling equipment, along with capable gates.
AA can pick up/drop off cargo on their own flights into MIA as well as other carriers that serve MIA [including some Latin American carriers that only serve MIA]. |
Actually it was a 773. Previous flight to MCO was canceled and AA was trying to get impacted paxs to MCO. FAs were so lazy no PDBs or any beverage service in the air. J sold as F.
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge
(Post 25165485)
Actually it was a 773. Previous flight to MCO was canceled and AA was trying to get impacted paxs to MCO. FAs were so lazy no PDBs or any beverage service in the air. J sold as F.
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Originally Posted by Microwave
(Post 25165525)
According to AA Cargo it was a "B777-200-IGW", which is the same thing as a 777-200ER. What is your source? I couldn't find anything anywhere else referencing a 777 at all, so clearly my sleuthing skills aren't so hot...
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge
(Post 25165485)
Actually it was a 773. Previous flight to MCO was canceled and AA was trying to get impacted paxs to MCO. FAs were so lazy no PDBs or any beverage service in the air. J sold as F.
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Originally Posted by ThreeJulietTango
(Post 25177633)
It was a 2-class 772 but the interior was similar to a 77W because of a new product.
I'm sure I'm misinterpreting that/ reading it wrong, just wanted to make sure! That this is a regular post-CIP 772 w/ the fore/aft seats (N756AM 7BR) |
Originally Posted by JonNYC
(Post 25178757)
Out of curiosity; you don't mean to imply that there's a 772 floating around that's been equipped with 773 (Cirrus) J-seats as opposed to the 77D ("concept-D"/ fore/aft AA design) J-seats, by any chance?
I'm sure I'm misinterpreting that/ reading it wrong, just wanted to make sure! That this is a regular post-CIP 772 w/ the fore/aft seats (N756AM 7BR) |
Originally Posted by ThreeJulietTango
(Post 25192730)
No, the J cabin is distinct between the 772 and 77W, but from what I understand the Y cabin is indistinguishable unless one goes through the trouble of counting the rows.
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Originally Posted by ThreeJulietTango
(Post 25192730)
No, the J cabin is distinct between the 772 and 77W, but from what I understand the Y cabin is indistinguishable unless one goes through the trouble of counting the rows.
The 77D in forward Y-cabin/MCE is configured 3-3-3 and aft Y-cabin is 3-4-3. The 772 on AA since initially entry into service in 1999 has been 2-5-2 (even as many carriers have transitioned to 3-3-3 including DL & UA). Just curious what you mean by indistinguishable-seats, seat cushions, IFE, wifi, in-seat AC power are all pretty significant changes IMO. |
If anyone is curious why AA sometimes subs a 777, think about what industry and company dominate. Not all cargo fits into an S80. This certain company has an agreement for oversized non-critical, non-valuble (<$100K) mass.
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Originally Posted by JAGMAP
(Post 25194059)
If anyone is curious why AA sometimes subs a 777, think about what industry and company dominate. Not all cargo fits into an S80. This certain company has an agreement for oversized non-critical, non-valuble (<$100K) mass.
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Originally Posted by Max M
(Post 25164958)
Precisely.
AA can do a quick turn on the plane and rather fly it to say JFK for aircraft utilization sake, it's less of a gamble for AA to fly a quick MIA-MCO. Especially with the dicey weather, and ATC delays that JFK has. Even if weather were to pop up, a delay is more manageable on a quick MIA-MCO hop. [especially with padding built into the schedule] Also the weather in MCO is usually less dicey than at JFK. AA has been running two 763's on the short MIA-MCO route since at least the beginning of 2015, so perhaps Disney, Universal, Darden or another company with a large presence in Orlando uses AA for Cargo. AA can pick up/drop off cargo on their own flights into MIA as well as other carriers that serve MIA [including some Latin American carriers that only serve MIA].
Originally Posted by JAGMAP
(Post 25194059)
If anyone is curious why AA sometimes subs a 777, think about what industry and company dominate. Not all cargo fits into an S80. This certain company has an agreement for oversized non-critical, non-valuble (<$100K) mass.
Originally Posted by aamilesslave
(Post 25202935)
Disney and other prominent Orlando companies were mentioned up-thread for cargo ops....
https://www.aacargo.com/downloads/sc...ngSchedule.pdf There have been periods where MIA-MCO was nothing but AB6s, and there were periods where MIA-MCO was nothing but 757s. At other times, several daily 763s. Now, occasional 777s. With hundreds of connecting passengers every day between MIA and MCO, AA flies a lot of seats on this route, sometimes on 777s. |
I have always had a 757 on. This route, but a 777 makes it interesting. ..
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Originally Posted by JAGMAP
(Post 25194059)
If anyone is curious why AA sometimes subs a 777, think about what industry and company dominate. Not all cargo fits into an S80. This certain company has an agreement for oversized non-critical, non-valuble (<$100K) mass.
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