AA and Jetstar (JQ) partner in New Zealand
 

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan.../D9IR4NIG0.htm


Be interesting to see which fare codes AA members will earn miles on.
The QF program only allows economy earning on the more expensive JetFlex fares (V, Y class) or codeshare flights (B, H, K or Y class).


Is the first step towards JQ (100% QF) and 3K/VF (49% QF) joining oneworld?

If it is an AA flight number it would follow AAdvantage earning rules.

Interesting. I wonder if this will have the common restriction that AA codeshares must be booked in conjunction with an AA flight, which in this case must be a QF-operated trans-Pacific feeder (unless I'm not thinking of something). I'm not sure I understand the logic.

+1. Absolutely correct. AA codeshare earns as if tone were flying on AA. Deathstar or any other airline.

Pity, I was really hoping that JQ would go the way of TED. :(

JQ is proving to be more profitable than QF. CEO of Qantas stated that the "two stars" of their recent earnings were Jetstar and the Frequent Flyer program which has been agressively expanding through credit card and Woolworth's (grocery store chain) affinity programs.

I loathe JQ, however some routes offer no other choice. You do, however, earn Business class status credits on the "Starclass" which they advertise as Business, but is more of a premium economy product.

Could this be a precursor of JQ actually becoming a potential OW affliate under QF? :eek:

No it will not be a member in forseeable future. But the JQ operated routes codeshare with oneworld airlines may be considered as oneworld routes. Just like WestJet and Alaska.

Doubt it. JQ is a LCC, are there any other in OW? No elite recognition whatsoever. QF Platinum members can access the First Class Lounge in SYD, however this is specifically mentioned in the T/Cs, and wouldn't apply to other OW elites. JQ Can't offer priority baggage, priority seating, extra baggage allowances, or any of the other benefits that are provided to OW elites simply because their model and systems don't allow for it.

Exactly. It's nothing I want to experience just as I do not fly WN in the US for the same reasons. :td:

JQ is just an economy flight , though unlike QF ( though like AA ) they do not provide free drinks and food. Seating is pre-allocated and can be selected at booking time plus they do offer for a reasonable cost the ability to pay extra and get the extra legroom seats such as exit and row 1ABC

Being able to pre-book exits is better than QF domestic AU

Lounge access can be purchased for a reasonable cost

Also, if the flight isnt too busy for around $5 (iirc) can purchase the adjacent seat to get some extra space adjacent

The domestic NZ flights are pretty short and JQ is , ime, fine for it

Comparing with AA on domestic travel for AAdvantage members, AA doesn't provide lounge access or free food/drink on board in economy; hardly majorly different


Dave

Any cost above $0 is unreasonable to me.

I don't believe in paying for exit row seats as an elite.

If I'd already have lounge access, then any cost above $0 is unreasonable to me.

A decent benefit.

No FF miles without paying through the nose makes that a deal-breaker for me.

AA: Free upgrades for EXP and sticker upgrades for other elites/full fare + free access to lounges for non-AA Oneworld Emerald/Sapphire or paid AA membership or same-day international J/F flight and/or OW Emerald/Sapphire

JQ: Upgrades? Free lounge access for Qantas Platinum only.

Conclusion: majorly different.

Regular seats are free and you are not an elite with JQ. Even QF charges for exit row pre-selection where available internationally



You wouldn't since Jetstar is not related to Oneworld

FF miles are not the be all and end all of travel


Most people who travel do not have status with airlines and JQ is not imo majorly different than AA for those without status in what they offer though they do offer lounge access at a lower cost and they do allow purchase exit row seating

JQ isnt an airline with free for all seating etc; it is like travelling with any other airline

I very much disagree with QF's practice. Thankfully, I have not had to worry about that. :)

Ah, but it is very much related to Qantas. As a WP, I can very much complain about that. As an EXP, I can peripherally complaint about it. Either way, I'd like to see JQ out and QF in (or back).

Sacrilege! :D Welcome to FlyerTalk. I'm Spiff, and I am a frequent flyer. ;)

I do have status. And I expect said status to do something for me when I fly an airline related to a major international airline that I do have status on. (QF) If I wanted a status-free experience, I'd choose to fly much differently.

Oh no. It's a discount carrier with a relationship with a supposedly premium airline. And while I might be able to get an assigned seat or slip someone $20 for lounge access, I consider such "perqs" to be very substandard compared to the perqs I receive when I fly an airline like QF, AA, or DL.

This will probably be a codehsare at most. AA partners with airlines such as EVA, China Eastern, and Etihad, airlines that have no desire to join OW.