AA and Jetstar (JQ) partner in New Zealand
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AA and Jetstar (JQ) partner in New Zealand
American Airlines and Jetstar said Wednesday they will work together to sell seats on Jetstar's flights to several destinations in New Zealand.
It's a so-called code-sharing deal. AMR Corp.'s American will put its code on Jetstar flights such as Auckland to Christchurch and Auckland to Wellington.
Members of American's frequent-flier program will be able to earn miles on those American-code flights and redeem them on flights sold under Jetstar's Qantas code. Jetstar is a low-fare subsidiary of the Australian carrier.
American and Qantas are members of the same alliance of worldwide airlines, called oneworld.
It's a so-called code-sharing deal. AMR Corp.'s American will put its code on Jetstar flights such as Auckland to Christchurch and Auckland to Wellington.
Members of American's frequent-flier program will be able to earn miles on those American-code flights and redeem them on flights sold under Jetstar's Qantas code. Jetstar is a low-fare subsidiary of the Australian carrier.
American and Qantas are members of the same alliance of worldwide airlines, called oneworld.
Be interesting to see which fare codes AA members will earn miles on.
The QF program only allows economy earning on the more expensive JetFlex fares (V, Y class) or codeshare flights (B, H, K or Y class).
Is the first step towards JQ (100% QF) and 3K/VF (49% QF) joining oneworld?
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If it is an AA flight number it would follow AAdvantage earning rules.
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Interesting. I wonder if this will have the common restriction that AA codeshares must be booked in conjunction with an AA flight, which in this case must be a QF-operated trans-Pacific feeder (unless I'm not thinking of something). I'm not sure I understand the logic.
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Pity, I was really hoping that JQ would go the way of TED.
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JQ is proving to be more profitable than QF. CEO of Qantas stated that the "two stars" of their recent earnings were Jetstar and the Frequent Flyer program which has been agressively expanding through credit card and Woolworth's (grocery store chain) affinity programs.
I loathe JQ, however some routes offer no other choice. You do, however, earn Business class status credits on the "Starclass" which they advertise as Business, but is more of a premium economy product.
I loathe JQ, however some routes offer no other choice. You do, however, earn Business class status credits on the "Starclass" which they advertise as Business, but is more of a premium economy product.
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Could this be a precursor of JQ actually becoming a potential OW affliate under QF?
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Doubt it. JQ is a LCC, are there any other in OW? No elite recognition whatsoever. QF Platinum members can access the First Class Lounge in SYD, however this is specifically mentioned in the T/Cs, and wouldn't apply to other OW elites. JQ Can't offer priority baggage, priority seating, extra baggage allowances, or any of the other benefits that are provided to OW elites simply because their model and systems don't allow for it.
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Doubt it. JQ is a LCC, are there any other in OW? No elite recognition whatsoever. QF Platinum members can access the First Class Lounge in SYD, however this is specifically mentioned in the T/Cs, and wouldn't apply to other OW elites. JQ Can't offer priority baggage, priority seating, extra baggage allowances, or any of the other benefits that are provided to OW elites simply because their model and systems don't allow for it.
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Being able to pre-book exits is better than QF domestic AU
Lounge access can be purchased for a reasonable cost
Also, if the flight isnt too busy for around $5 (iirc) can purchase the adjacent seat to get some extra space adjacent
The domestic NZ flights are pretty short and JQ is , ime, fine for it
Comparing with AA on domestic travel for AAdvantage members, AA doesn't provide lounge access or free food/drink on board in economy; hardly majorly different
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JQ is just an economy flight , though unlike QF ( though like AA ) they do not provide free drinks and food. Seating is pre-allocated and can be selected at booking time plus they do offer for a reasonable cost the ability to pay extra and get the extra legroom seats such as exit and row 1ABC
I don't believe in paying for exit row seats as an elite.
If I'd already have lounge access, then any cost above $0 is unreasonable to me.
JQ: Upgrades? Free lounge access for Qantas Platinum only.
Conclusion: majorly different.
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Originally Posted by Spiff
If I'd already have lounge access, then any cost above $0 is unreasonable to me.
Originally Posted by Spiff
No FF miles without paying through the nose makes that a deal-breaker for me.
Originally Posted by Spiff
AA: Free upgrades for EXP and sticker upgrades for other elites/full fare + free access to lounges for non-AA Oneworld Emerald/Sapphire or paid AA membership or same-day international J/F flight and/or OW Emerald/Sapphire
JQ: Upgrades? Free lounge access for Qantas Platinum only.
JQ: Upgrades? Free lounge access for Qantas Platinum only.
JQ isnt an airline with free for all seating etc; it is like travelling with any other airline
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Ah, but it is very much related to Qantas. As a WP, I can very much complain about that. As an EXP, I can peripherally complaint about it. Either way, I'd like to see JQ out and QF in (or back).
Sacrilege! Welcome to FlyerTalk. I'm Spiff, and I am a frequent flyer.
Oh no. It's a discount carrier with a relationship with a supposedly premium airline. And while I might be able to get an assigned seat or slip someone $20 for lounge access, I consider such "perqs" to be very substandard compared to the perqs I receive when I fly an airline like QF, AA, or DL.
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This will probably be a codehsare at most. AA partners with airlines such as EVA, China Eastern, and Etihad, airlines that have no desire to join OW.