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Old Oct 15, 2013, 6:54 pm
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YYZ--PEK air canada biz class how much fuel surcharge

Hi there,

I am new to this forum. Plan to transfer some MR to ANA. want to know how much fuel surcharge and fees to book biz class of air canada using ANA before decision.

Many thanks
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Old Oct 15, 2013, 7:31 pm
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Originally Posted by zhaolei9888
Hi there,

I am new to this forum. Plan to transfer some MR to ANA. want to know how much fuel surcharge and fees to book biz class of air canada using ANA before decision.

Many thanks
Welcome to FlyerTalk!

If you do a search using ITA for your chosen itinerary, it will give you the breakdown of taxes and fees.
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Old Oct 15, 2013, 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by armagebedar
Welcome to FlyerTalk!

If you do a search using ITA for your chosen itinerary, it will give you the breakdown of taxes and fees.
Thanks. Does tax and fees base on carrier (air canada) or Ana?
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Old Oct 15, 2013, 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by zhaolei9888
Thanks. Does tax and fees base on carrier (air canada) or Ana?
It's based on the carrier(s) flown as displayed on the final page (in your case, AC).
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Old Oct 17, 2013, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by armagebedar
It's based on the carrier(s) flown as displayed on the final page (in your case, AC).
many thanks. Appreciate.
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Old Oct 17, 2013, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by armagebedar
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If you do a search using ITA for your chosen itinerary, it will give you the breakdown of taxes and fees.
The points guy seems to say that there would charges of $500+ on Etihad:

http://thepointsguy.com/2013/04/ana-...rtner-roundup/

But a search on ITA did not show fuel surcharge, any idea why?
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Old Oct 17, 2013, 6:17 pm
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Originally Posted by UA Fan
The points guy seems to say that there would charges of $500+ on Etihad:

http://thepointsguy.com/2013/04/ana-...rtner-roundup/

But a search on ITA did not show fuel surcharge, any idea why?
I'm not sure where he's getting his information from, but when I priced a NRT-AUH-NRT itinerary, it showed a total of 23,000 JPY in fuel surcharges:

United Arab Emirates International Advanced Passenger Information (API) Fee (ZR) ¥140
Japan International Passenger Facility Charge (SW) ¥2,040
Passenger Security Service Charge (OI) ¥500
EY YQ surcharge (YQ) ¥23,000
United Arab Emirates Passenger Service Charge (AE) ¥2,070
United Arab Emirates Security and Safety Fee (TP) ¥140
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Old Oct 17, 2013, 10:56 pm
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I think EY uses an embedded Q surcharge, buried in the fare rules somewhere:

Surcharges
ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES -
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
A SURCHARGE OF USD 10.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR WEEKEND TRAVEL ON
FRI/SAT.
AND - ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES -
A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 110.00 PER FARE COMPONENT
WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
OTHERWISE
ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES -
A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 500.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL
BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ADULT/CHILD/
INFANT.
AND - A SURCHARGE OF USD 10.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL
BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR WEEKEND TRAVEL
ON FRI/SAT.
AND - A SURCHARGE OF USD 25.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL FROM 10JUL
THROUGH 10AUG.
AND - A SURCHARGE OF USD 25.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL FROM 07DEC
THROUGH 23DEC.
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Old Oct 17, 2013, 11:07 pm
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Any reason why it is not shown in the breakdown ?
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Old Oct 17, 2013, 11:26 pm
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Originally Posted by UA Fan
Any reason why it is not shown in the breakdown ?
No idea. But I'm fairly sure that ANA does charge this on redemptions.
Perhaps it's to prevent fuel dumping, but I'm not an expert in that field.
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Old Oct 18, 2013, 12:42 am
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Originally Posted by UA Fan
Any reason why it is not shown in the breakdown ?
As I mentioned upthread it is shown on ITA Matrix however it's shown in the fare construction section not in the breakdown of taxes (since it's not a tax/fee, but rather a surcharge for ticketing purposes). The tax breakdown section is only a breakdown of the XT portion of the fare construction (italicized below).

Fare construction (can be useful to travel agents):
NYC EY AUH Q317.00 753.00VLXEOWUS NUC 1070.00 END ROE 1.00 XT 17.20US 2.50AY 1.40ZR 4.50XF JFK4.50

This is called an "embedded-Q" surcharge since it's a "Q" surcharge (as in Q317.00 above) which is "embedded" within the fare construction and not broken out as a tax in the XT section. A few airlines do this, notably also Korean.
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Old Oct 23, 2013, 2:59 pm
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When i redeemed my United miles for a Lufthansa flight from Barcelona-San Francisco the taxes were only $54 with no fuel surcharges. I wonder if you booked under a United Code Share Flight# operated by ANA would the fuel surcharge fee be waived?
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Old Oct 23, 2013, 9:36 pm
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Originally Posted by danielonn
When i redeemed my United miles for a Lufthansa flight from Barcelona-San Francisco the taxes were only $54 with no fuel surcharges. I wonder if you booked under a United Code Share Flight# operated by ANA would the fuel surcharge fee be waived?
United miles never have fuel surcharges.
ana charges yq tpac on most airlines so that wouldn't be possible.
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Old Oct 24, 2013, 12:00 am
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Hi!

I also plan on transferring some MR into ANA to fly BOS-YUL-FRA on Dec 15 and FRA-YUL-BOS on Dec 28, which should only cost 43,000 miles for coach. It does not tell me how much taxes and fees there'll be though.

Would it show the taxes and fees if I had enough miles in my ANA account already? Does anybody have access to that information or a hint where I can find it? The carrier is AC on all legs and there is no stopover (other than the destination).

Best,
petzpatz
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Old Oct 24, 2013, 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by petzpanz
Hi!

I also plan on transferring some MR into ANA to fly BOS-YUL-FRA on Dec 15 and FRA-YUL-BOS on Dec 28, which should only cost 43,000 miles for coach. It does not tell me how much taxes and fees there'll be though.

Would it show the taxes and fees if I had enough miles in my ANA account already? Does anybody have access to that information or a hint where I can find it? The carrier is AC on all legs and there is no stopover (other than the destination).

Best,
petzpatz
NH has fixed AC fuel surcharges, expect $600 rt. or call in to check.
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