SFOPeter

I've had the same, including AA Concierge Key, AA EXP, UA 1K, AS MVP75. Typically paid J/F. Can't tell the difference between when I have status or not except for the few times there have been irrops. Other than UA asking for meal choice to 1Ks ahead of others, which really doesn't matter nowadays since you can order ahead on most airlines.

These alliances for me are primarily about earning/burning miles at max value. I fly a lot of SQ SFO-SIN and EK SFO-DXB so AS is ideal. However redeeming/upgrading J/F on SQ and EK is usually only viable when transferring CC points so increasingly these partnerships/alliances are worthless from a redemption standpoint.

ashill

That’s a pretty darn big exception. IRROPS handling is, IMHO, one of the biggest benefits of an alliance. Much clearer rules about being able to reaccommodate on alliance partners. In oneworld, you’re protected in the event of misconnects on separate tickets; generally not outside an alliance. Etc.

VegasGambler

We should have a poll in this thread (mods, can we add one?). Let's keep it simple: For you personally, do you think that AS joining OW will be:

• a positive change
• a negative change
• a neutral change

Even if we don't know for sure (this is all speculation, after all), it would be interesting to gauge expectations.

Eurynom0s

A lot of ORD delays are because of weather IIRC, and fog is a big problem at SFO, to name just two United hubs. I think United has a uniquely bad assortment of hubs in terms of having on time performance slammed by the weather.

edgewood49

My personal experience internationally is that one traveling on a ticket within an alliance travel is more seamless than traveling on a "partner" agreement as AS has on many carriers. This becomes much more apparent when you have a cancellation / delay and need to rebook on the same or possibly another carrier. Fly18725's statement is correct imo based on 30 years of international travel. I have been a loyal AS traveler for almost 25years MM when traveling internationally either on points or paid without an alliance to use as a back stop I book the least complicated trips as possible, but then good intentions often go off track

eponymous_coward

Doesn’t that belong in the speck-you-lay-shun thread?

dayone

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edgewood49

jakeller

I did a quick search of the thread and didn't see this come up, but has anyone heard when "spring" starts for this partnership? I'm flying AA from SEA-DFW-GYE (and back) and, up until this announcement, I was only going to get miles for the int'l portion (since I bought the tickets before the Oct 2nd deadline). Now, I'm not sure if I'll get anything. Anyone have any ideas?

NWplatinum

I too am wondering when AS “officially” becomes part of OW. It will help a lot of us greatly to know. Especially those of us with status that would like to pre-book a BA J seat with our new OW Emeralds (assuming), or enter lounges.

NWplatinum

I don’t know why people think MileagePlan will change/collapse and become terrible. They were able to keep 70,000 F awards on CX and 75K F on JAL. All their OW redemptions are the best out there and they retained and got new OW partners with those redemption levels. Why would it change now?

The only ones able to strong arm AS to increase their award redemption was EK, and they weren’t in an alliance so it was reasonable those 100K awards were not going to last.

edgewood49

Their saying mid 2021 however some say maybe earlier which I think might happen. The sooner their in the better for all parties. Here's hoping it's sooner than later as it will affect a international trip we have in 2021

WillTravel4Food

In a previous life I did some detailed analysis on the data set that's used to support these DOT reports. You can pretty much correlate delay statistics to an airlines schedule and season. Airlines with a lot of flights to the northeast (snow) or southeast (thunderstorms) show seasonal delays and take a hit in their statistics. Snow and thunderstorms are equally devastating to on-time reliability. AS has historically been less affected by weather due to relatively stable weather at its hubs. SEA with all its rain rarely poses a significant threat to frequent, large scale delays. I wouldn't use this information as a metric to the value of AA to AS. However, the maintenance-based delays and cancellations are another story. But even a serious analysis of that data shows the complexities of operating a large scale legacy airline. All said, I'm cautiously optimistic AS MP will see some benefits in OW.

No I'm not an AA apologist, I jumped ship 4 years ago for reasons like these.

EkekoBWI

As long as they give me enough time to burn my AS miles first...

Hotel_junkie

I see a lot of anxiety and worry about AS’s entry into OW will mean a deluge of upgrade reciprocity.

I’m not sure why people keep thinking airlines will provide upgrade benefits to each other. At most you might get some premium economy benefits (like AA and AS did before) but I think it’s pretty explicit that no airline is going to give free upgrades to an elite from another airline. That makes no sense!

right? Not sure why everyone is getting all twisted around this topic.