Alaska Captain accused of drugging and raping female co-pilot
Mar 14, 2018, 10:03 pm
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In December she was finally told she’d soon be able to return to work, and her crew chief asked her why she didn’t press charges; she was shocked by this, because until that moment she assumed that telling the company and supervisor was enough
Mar 14, 2018, 10:41 pm
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Mar 14, 2018, 11:10 pm
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Telling someone not to talk about the investigation is pretty standard practice. You don't want the investigation to be judged and explored by reporters that have their own interests; typically to sell media.
At the same time, I won't want my employer talking about the allegation or circumstances publicly either. There's employee privacy to be had, on both the part of the accuser and the subject of the complaint.
One would hope that the internal investigation would have taken a serious look at this incident as there is some partial responsibility for the conduct of these parties while their on the company travel tab.
At the same time, I won't want my employer talking about the allegation or circumstances publicly either. There's employee privacy to be had, on both the part of the accuser and the subject of the complaint.
One would hope that the internal investigation would have taken a serious look at this incident as there is some partial responsibility for the conduct of these parties while their on the company travel tab.
Mar 15, 2018, 7:31 am
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“After recounting how she found her underwear inside her zipped-up purse in Engelien’s room that night, Pina said she regretted not immediately calling 911.”
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”Pina said she’s open to pursuing a criminal case against Engelien.”
Mar 15, 2018, 9:26 am
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It's still not clear to me if any police agency has been contacted. I can't read the Seattle Times article linked above as I've hit the maximum amount of free views (does it state definitively that a police investigation is underway or has been concluded?), but did see one blogger commenting on the article in detail today. What surprised me was this, some six months after the assault:
More Details Emerge About The Alaska Pilot Who Was Allegedly Drugged & Raped - One Mile at a Time
More Details Emerge About The Alaska Pilot Who Was Allegedly Drugged & Raped - One Mile at a Time
So there was a crewmember bystander who apparently saw her being dragged to his room and realized it was a dangerous situation and still did nothing?
I have many questions about this story. Horrible if true, horrible if not.
Either way, I would imagine there would be ways to determine the truth. The bartender and/or waitstaff should be able to corroborated the drinking part. There is CCTV footage. No use in speculating really.
Mar 15, 2018, 4:04 pm
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Appalling but not surprising. It's very common for rape and other sexual assault victims and witnesses/bystanders not to report for a variety of reasons which mostly come down to male power and social stigma (especially victim-blaming comments like suggesting that the victim made up the story) leading to shame.
Mar 15, 2018, 10:56 pm
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The company-paid-for hotel while two Alaska Airlines are on an overnight layover on a work trip at a time when work duty rules (and probably, though I don’t know this, a work code of conduct) apply may not technically be “at work” but it is sure related to Alaska Airlines.
Mar 15, 2018, 11:28 pm
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The company-paid-for hotel while two Alaska Airlines are on an overnight layover on a work trip at a time when work duty rules (and probably, though I don’t know this, a work code of conduct) apply may not technically be “at work” but it is sure related to Alaska Airlines.
Mar 16, 2018, 8:31 am
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Does anyone know the hotel where this occurred or alternatively know which hotel(s) Alaska uses for crew at MSP?
Mar 18, 2018, 10:20 am
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no, like two police officers get sent to a convention and staying at a police dept paid hotel and something happens.
Mar 19, 2018, 6:32 pm
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The company-paid-for hotel while two Alaska Airlines are on an overnight layover on a work trip at a time when work duty rules (and probably, though I don’t know this, a work code of conduct) apply may not technically be “at work” but it is sure related to Alaska Airlines.
FERRIS v. Michael Young, Defendant. | FindLaw (decision)
Court Expands Definition of a Workplace - The New York Times (article)
The suit arises from a male flight attendant's rape of Ferris during the crew's brief layover between flights in Rome. We vacate the grant of summary judgment as to the federal sexual harassment claims because a reasonable factfinder could find that Delta was responsible for a sexually hostile work environment that caused injury to Ferris. We affirm the grant of summary judgment as to the claims under New York State and New York City law. . . . .
May 15, 2018, 12:02 am
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/14/us/ai...its/index.html
Through counsel, Engelien continues to deny drugging or raping Pina. His lawyer said that he took a polygraph -- not admissible in American courts of law -- to clear his name and passed.
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Maybe not admissible but are polygraphs completely worthless or accurate?
Through counsel, Engelien continues to deny drugging or raping Pina. His lawyer said that he took a polygraph -- not admissible in American courts of law -- to clear his name and passed.
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Maybe not admissible but are polygraphs completely worthless or accurate?
May 15, 2018, 6:16 am
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They're irrelevant in the courtroom, but can play in the mind of the public.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/14/us/ai...its/index.html
Through counsel, Engelien continues to deny drugging or raping Pina. His lawyer said that he took a polygraph -- not admissible in American courts of law -- to clear his name and passed.
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Maybe not admissible but are polygraphs completely worthless or accurate?
Through counsel, Engelien continues to deny drugging or raping Pina. His lawyer said that he took a polygraph -- not admissible in American courts of law -- to clear his name and passed.
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Maybe not admissible but are polygraphs completely worthless or accurate?