Dec 6, 2017, 7:08 am
Last edit by: missamo80
Ending April 30, 2018
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...e-partners/klm
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...ers/air-france
Tickets booked through December 5th, 2017, will earn miles regardless of travel dates.
Tickets booked on or after December 6th, 2017 for travel through April 30, 2018 will earn miles.
Tickets booked on or after December 6th, 2017 for travel beginning May 1, 2018 will not earn miles.
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...e-partners/klm
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...ers/air-france
Effective April 30, 2018 the partnership between KLM and Alaska Airlines will end. Our other global partners serve all of the top destinations members have earned miles to in the past with KLM, but we recognize that this change leaves a gap in coverage to some small European destinations. Europe continues to be a key focus area, served by partners including British Airways, Icelandair, Condor, and Finnair, and we’ll continue to evaluate additional partnerships to serve your needs both to and within Europe.
Effective April 30th, 2018, the partnership between Air France and Alaska Airlines will end. Our other global partners serve all of the top destinations members have earned miles to in the past with Air France, but we recognize that this change leaves a gap in coverage to some small European destinations. Europe continues to be a key focus area, served by partners including British Airways, Icelandair, Condor, and Finnair, and we'll continue to evaluate additional partnerships to serve your needs both to and within Europe.
Tickets booked on or after December 6th, 2017 for travel through April 30, 2018 will earn miles.
Tickets booked on or after December 6th, 2017 for travel beginning May 1, 2018 will not earn miles.
Confirmed: AF/KLM partnership ending April 30th 2018!
Dec 5, 2017, 8:52 am
#76
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2001
Programs: DL 1 million, AA 1 mil, HH lapsed Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 28,190
Aer Lingus to DUB is interesting. I'm not sure there's that much O&D SEA-DUB but they can build traffic as an LCC one-stop beyond DUB. However, that competes with IAG's own BA flight SEA-LHR and beyond.
Dec 5, 2017, 9:20 am
#77
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,391
This is an interesting rumor. While still a rumor, it - honestly - seems inevitable at some point. Also, the Korean Airlines partnership is in the same boat with their Delta JV. It seems Delta is playing the long game here, and it would be good to know if Alaska has a long game in mind, because right now it’s not at all obvious. Note to the Alaska team: your “Switzerland” partnership model of being friends with everyone seems to be running our of steam. What’s next? Join an alliance? Something different? You have thousands of fliers wondering, and keeping everyone guessing is not a great strategy.
Dec 5, 2017, 9:44 am
#78
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2001
Programs: DL 1 million, AA 1 mil, HH lapsed Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 28,190
[ QUOTE=sfozrhfco;29135258]
To add to the comedy, I will add that Delta does not have a controlling interest in AF/KLM and AS is currently negotiating with AF/KLM to gain access to their F award inventory for Mileage Plan Members to entice DL loyalists in SEA to flee for AS. That is as bizarre as some other predictions based on a foundation that is not yet concrete. Or is it??? lol
To add to the comedy, I will add that Delta does not have a controlling interest in AF/KLM and AS is currently negotiating with AF/KLM to gain access to their F award inventory for Mileage Plan Members to entice DL loyalists in SEA to flee for AS. That is as bizarre as some other predictions based on a foundation that is not yet concrete. Or is it??? lol
You would need to have deep inside info at AS or AF/KL to be able to make that statement - unless it's mere speculation to prop up your argument.
Dec 5, 2017, 9:45 am
#79
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2001
Programs: DL 1 million, AA 1 mil, HH lapsed Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 28,190
To add to the comedy, I will add that Delta does not have a controlling interest in AF/KLM and AS is currently negotiating with AF/KLM to gain access to their F award inventory for Mileage Plan Members to entice DL loyalists in SEA to flee for AS. That is as bizarre as some other predictions based on a foundation that is not yet concrete. Or is it??? lol
You would need to have deep inside info at AS or AF/KL to be able to make that statement - unless it's mere speculation to prop up your argument.
Dec 5, 2017, 4:09 pm
#80
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: A3 *G, AA exePlat, AS MVP 75k Gold, JL sapphire, UA silver
Posts: 4,035
i dont wish AS to join any alliance.
i suppose if AS elite were to enter partner lounge on Y tickets, perhaps, there is a cost (or oneworld elite enter AS lounge).
these added cost would need to be paid via cutting benefits like 100% bonus miles on selected partner, or cutting the award chart.
i suppose if AS elite were to enter partner lounge on Y tickets, perhaps, there is a cost (or oneworld elite enter AS lounge).
these added cost would need to be paid via cutting benefits like 100% bonus miles on selected partner, or cutting the award chart.
Dec 5, 2017, 6:15 pm
#81
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: B6 Mosaic, Bonvoy LT Titanium (x SPG LT), IHG Spire, UA Silver
Posts: 5,848
That is likely to happen with or without an alliance. The extra bonus points now are to try to make up for the loss of DL/AA among others. Once the bean counters figure out the cost is no longer worth it, those will go away.
Dec 6, 2017, 1:13 am
#82
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: BNA/LAX/BWI/SZX/SIN
Posts: 649
Dec 6, 2017, 1:15 am
#83
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: BNA/LAX/BWI/SZX/SIN
Posts: 649
Bye Bye AF/KL Partners
So Korean Air, don't go with them please?
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...e-partners/klm
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...ers/air-france
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...e-partners/klm
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...ers/air-france
Last edited by currentjer; Dec 6, 2017 at 1:15 am Reason: Added links
Dec 6, 2017, 4:42 am
#84
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
As with any airline partnership, the partnership exists...still does... until it doesn't...Terminates April 30th with exceptions.
Dec 6, 2017, 7:54 am
#85
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern Calif./Eastern Ida.
Programs: Amethyst Premier Plutonium Medallion
Posts: 20,642
I think the writing is on the wall for that. Whether or not you choose to read it is up to you.
I am so glad I moved most of my flying to Delta when I did. At least this time I am not left holding the bag like I was back in 2012-2014 when UA melted down and I had to leave them too.
I am so glad I moved most of my flying to Delta when I did. At least this time I am not left holding the bag like I was back in 2012-2014 when UA melted down and I had to leave them too.
Dec 6, 2017, 9:22 am
#88
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,391
Such an attractive offer compared to actual organic growtth that B6 and WN achieve without ANY alliance (one of them with next to nothing in partnerships). Time to grovel. The FT crowd demands it. 6 out of 5 FT airline armchair CEO endorse this strategy.
Dec 6, 2017, 9:47 am
#89
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: YVR
Programs: WS Nothing, AC Something, AS Gold. Too big for 737Max washrooms
Posts: 893
So now the partner network is significantly diminished from what is was say three years ago, when from my POV, it was a excellent mix. AS need to backfill partners pronto to give them the reach and make them attractive to us folks that fly internationally with any frequency. Not sure who that will be but as a consolation I was hoping for WestJet to be added in some capacity. With their expansion in the next couple of years as they take delivery of the new 787s, they could be useful for some limited international routes. However with this.... http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...joint-venture/ I doubt that is going to be a possibility.
So I'll be watching out very closely for what comes next. I have a trip to SVO booked on KLM in Feb. so I'll be able to earn on that itin., but after that I suspect I will be limited to BA .....and the 7th circle of hell that is LHR T5 for similar trips.
FL
So I'll be watching out very closely for what comes next. I have a trip to SVO booked on KLM in Feb. so I'll be able to earn on that itin., but after that I suspect I will be limited to BA .....and the 7th circle of hell that is LHR T5 for similar trips.
FL
Dec 6, 2017, 9:49 am
#90
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
Glad I pulled the trigger on the KL trip over the weekend and did some fine tuning last night.
Thank you Jma12 for your sharp observation! Would have been even less warning without it.