Dec 6, 2017, 7:08 am
Last edit by: missamo80
Ending April 30, 2018
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...e-partners/klm
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...ers/air-france
Tickets booked through December 5th, 2017, will earn miles regardless of travel dates.
Tickets booked on or after December 6th, 2017 for travel through April 30, 2018 will earn miles.
Tickets booked on or after December 6th, 2017 for travel beginning May 1, 2018 will not earn miles.
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Effective April 30, 2018 the partnership between KLM and Alaska Airlines will end. Our other global partners serve all of the top destinations members have earned miles to in the past with KLM, but we recognize that this change leaves a gap in coverage to some small European destinations. Europe continues to be a key focus area, served by partners including British Airways, Icelandair, Condor, and Finnair, and we’ll continue to evaluate additional partnerships to serve your needs both to and within Europe.
Effective April 30th, 2018, the partnership between Air France and Alaska Airlines will end. Our other global partners serve all of the top destinations members have earned miles to in the past with Air France, but we recognize that this change leaves a gap in coverage to some small European destinations. Europe continues to be a key focus area, served by partners including British Airways, Icelandair, Condor, and Finnair, and we'll continue to evaluate additional partnerships to serve your needs both to and within Europe.
Tickets booked on or after December 6th, 2017 for travel through April 30, 2018 will earn miles.
Tickets booked on or after December 6th, 2017 for travel beginning May 1, 2018 will not earn miles.
Confirmed: AF/KLM partnership ending April 30th 2018!
Nov 29, 2017, 3:24 pm
#32
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Both of those airlines are pretty useless as far as an AS relationship goes given that SN doesn't even touch the US West Coast and IB only does it seasonally.
Nov 29, 2017, 4:42 pm
#34
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Along with the AS Partner Award desk, couldn't find award inventory on a single AF or KL flight for entire month of March or first two weeks of April on pretty much any transatlantic flight checked. Is anyone even able to redeem AS miles on KL/AF at this point? BA conversely had tons of space (if you're willing to pay $500+ in fees each way), as did Icelandair (albeit wth higher redemption rates for their domestic F cabin style Saga Class than AA Intl Business in a flat bed, not exactly the most exciting option).
Nov 29, 2017, 4:50 pm
#35
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Probably neither because LH has a TATL JV with UA and AC, that would be a highly unfriendly thing to do to partners who have West Coast hubs in LAX/SFO/YVR (which sort of means there's really no reason to do it, it's not like you can't get anywhere on the West Coast with UA as opposed to AS). DY isn't likely to happen because BA would be... not happy.
Both of those airlines are pretty useless as far as an AS relationship goes given that SN doesn't even touch the US West Coast and IB only does it seasonally.
Both of those airlines are pretty useless as far as an AS relationship goes given that SN doesn't even touch the US West Coast and IB only does it seasonally.
Anyhow, we can keep our fingers crossed that AF and AS will stay together for awhile to come.
Nov 29, 2017, 4:57 pm
#36
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Netherlands
Venezuela
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan
Passenger numbers fall off pretty quickly. #20 Taiwan had about 1/10th the number of #3 U.K.
https://travel.trade.gov/research/mo...vals/index.asp
Nov 29, 2017, 5:38 pm
#37
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Nov 29, 2017, 5:51 pm
#38
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IB's only west coast destination is LAX, which they only serve seasonally, and where they have plenty of connecting feed from AA if they want it. SN can't even say that much; their only US destinations are JFK (year-round) and IAD (seasonal). Maybe if one of them pulls an AY and launches service to SFO or SEA, sure, but otherwise no way.
Nov 29, 2017, 6:26 pm
#39
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Aer Lingus would be a good fit to replace KLM / Air France.
Aer Lingus pulled out of OneWorld alliance 10 years ago and largely do their own thing. They offer some great destinations in Europe as well as flights into Seattle starting May 2018. Guinness on tap at the Alaska Lounge! - Why not?
Aer Lingus pulled out of OneWorld alliance 10 years ago and largely do their own thing. They offer some great destinations in Europe as well as flights into Seattle starting May 2018. Guinness on tap at the Alaska Lounge! - Why not?
Nov 30, 2017, 12:24 am
#41
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Nov 30, 2017, 12:40 am
#42
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CX will get you to South Africa (JNB) via HKG for 62.5K in J, SQ also flies CPT-JNB-SIN so that may be an option when we can book SQ awards. If you are looking for other African countries, then I do agree your options are limited. BA wouldn't be a loss for me as I would never book an award on their metal anyway.
Nov 30, 2017, 9:57 am
#43
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Probably neither because LH has a TATL JV with UA and AC, that would be a highly unfriendly thing to do to partners who have West Coast hubs in LAX/SFO/YVR (which sort of means there's really no reason to do it, it's not like you can't get anywhere on the West Coast with UA as opposed to AS). DY isn't likely to happen because BA would be... not happy.
Both of those airlines are pretty useless as far as an AS relationship goes given that SN doesn't even touch the US West Coast and IB only does it seasonally.
Both of those airlines are pretty useless as far as an AS relationship goes given that SN doesn't even touch the US West Coast and IB only does it seasonally.
Nov 30, 2017, 11:31 am
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CX will get you to South Africa (JNB) via HKG for 62.5K in J, SQ also flies CPT-JNB-SIN so that may be an option when we can book SQ awards. If you are looking for other African countries, then I do agree your options are limited. BA wouldn't be a loss for me as I would never book an award on their metal anyway.
Which is why I'm fairly skeptical that SN or IB would care enough about an AS hookup (or v.v.). EI is somewhat a more logical possibility given a new SEA flight.
Dec 1, 2017, 9:43 am
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https://www.dansdeals.com/points-tra...next-thursday/
Dec 6th, huh? I guess we will see soon enough. Given past breakups I think it might get announced then but won’t be immediate.
Dec 6th, huh? I guess we will see soon enough. Given past breakups I think it might get announced then but won’t be immediate.