Aug 7, 2015, 8:58 am
Cathay Pacific Award Availability
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Both BA and JL websites can be used to search for CX partner inventory. JL is typically a more accurate engine. BA should only be used on a per-segment basis (in other words, do not search for LAX-BKK, search for LAX-HKG, then HKG-BKK). Note that AS award availability is only for 330 days, the BA engine will show availability to 365 days.
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Award Travel on Cathay Pacific
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
CX (Cathay) Award availability
Jan 16, 2016, 11:31 am
#1126
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: AZ
Posts: 187
Phone Booking Fee $15
I was booking an award ticket on CX flights, which I cannot book online. I called in to book and I was charged phone booking fee for AS airline. Do you have any luck with waiving the phone booking fee when booking CX flights?
Jan 16, 2016, 2:45 pm
#1127
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,538
If I ever found myself on a flight with you I'd invite an unknown stranger from J (or maybe even Y!) to dine with me purely because I know how much it evidently bothers you.
Seriously dude, there's much bigger things to worry about in life than "time" being "stolen" from an FA in the F cabin. If that's the biggest thing stressing you out, then you should consider yourself lucky.
Seriously dude, there's much bigger things to worry about in life than "time" being "stolen" from an FA in the F cabin. If that's the biggest thing stressing you out, then you should consider yourself lucky.
Alas, if you and are both in F, I would be more than happy to have a drink with you. I'll pm ahead of my next JFKHKGPEK which is a few months away. I have a trip planned to North Korea, but I'm flying back from PEK on KE as I haven't flown their refreshed F in the 748i yet. Should be cool, curious to see how it compares to CX.
Safe travels - Jamie
Jan 16, 2016, 3:44 pm
#1128
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,621
Hi Sungchiahao -
The phone booking fee apples to everyone. I think it is $12.50 each way.
The phone booking fee apples to everyone. I think it is $12.50 each way.
Jan 16, 2016, 3:47 pm
#1129
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: AU
Programs: former Olympic Airways Gold (yeah - still proud of that!)
Posts: 14,406
I don't know about 'infuriate' other F pax, but it would certainly be frowned upon, even by some of those paying for their seats. Doesn't matter how 'discrete' the visiting passengers might think they are - in such a small cabin they don't go unnoticed.
Jan 16, 2016, 5:22 pm
#1130
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Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
See my post about my friend's experiences when his grand daughter was traveling with him but in J.
Let me give you yet one more tidbit - I have had numerous chit chat with quite a few FAs on various flights (speaking their native language has some advantage) - one of the topics we talked about is, which passengers are the most difficult to satisfy? Inevitably the answers are upgraders and redeemers. The real paying passengers by and large are not obnoxious and much easier to please they say. There you have it.
Jan 16, 2016, 5:41 pm
#1131
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... based on your own self-entitlement when none of you is paying passengers in the F cabin I am venture to say. All of us here are redemption tickets. Yet some act as they are the kings to own the F cabin when they are in F...
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The real paying passengers by and large are not obnoxious and much easier to please they say. There you have it.
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The real paying passengers by and large are not obnoxious and much easier to please they say. There you have it.
There are cost effective ways of purchasing tickets in the CX F cabin, including round-the-world tickets purchased from various countries, or departures from other Asian ports rather than HKG. Sure we may not be paying the USD18000+ for a return, but we are still paying.
It's not being obnoxious to expect the amenity of the cabin purchased.
Jan 16, 2016, 9:07 pm
#1133
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As for me I'd love to get back to the topic of the thread, which is F and J award availability and booking, before we have to alert the mods for cleanup on aisle snobriety.
Jan 16, 2016, 11:39 pm
#1134
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eastern Washington
Programs: AS MVPGold 75K
Posts: 81
Is it true that an F passenger can bring a guest to an F lounge in Hong Kong? Cathay Pacific says that guest traveling in first or business can have one guest.
My daughter is in business and I'm in first, so does that mean she can join me in a first lounge? Wing? Pier?
I'm crazy obsessive with checking BA and expert flyer for availability and award seats for an upcoming flight. Keeping fingers crossed and F seat opens up. If not, I'd like her to be able to join me in the lounge.
Thanks!
My daughter is in business and I'm in first, so does that mean she can join me in a first lounge? Wing? Pier?
I'm crazy obsessive with checking BA and expert flyer for availability and award seats for an upcoming flight. Keeping fingers crossed and F seat opens up. If not, I'd like her to be able to join me in the lounge.
Thanks!
Jan 17, 2016, 12:09 am
#1135
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Is it true that an F passenger can bring a guest to an F lounge in Hong Kong? Cathay Pacific says that guest traveling in first or business can have one guest.
My daughter is in business and I'm in first, so does that mean she can join me in a first lounge? Wing? Pier?
Thanks!
My daughter is in business and I'm in first, so does that mean she can join me in a first lounge? Wing? Pier?
Thanks!
There are threads elsewhere on FT discussing the relative merits of both lounges
Jan 17, 2016, 2:27 am
#1136
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,538
Pier is materially better than the Wing, and definitely worth the schlep. Don't let its location deter you.
Jan 17, 2016, 6:17 am
#1137
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Jan 17, 2016, 8:46 am
#1138
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Jan 17, 2016, 4:42 pm
#1139
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Last edited by CDKing; Jan 17, 2016 at 5:17 pm
Jan 17, 2016, 7:36 pm
#1140
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eastern Washington
Programs: AS MVPGold 75K
Posts: 81
I'm happy to report that I was able to snag an F seat on my upcoming LAX-HKG flight for my daughter. I am in F already and she was in business. EF showed F5 and BA has been showing 0 award seats in F. Started checking numerous times a day at 14 days out. Now one week out...BA showed 2 in FC, 6 in business and 5 in PE. Now only 1 in FC left, but hey if anyone wants to snag some seats on 1/25 get on the phone! Some good seats available.
I'm a happy flyer!
I'm a happy flyer!