Aug 7, 2015, 8:58 am
Cathay Pacific Award Availability
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Both BA and JL websites can be used to search for CX partner inventory. JL is typically a more accurate engine. BA should only be used on a per-segment basis (in other words, do not search for LAX-BKK, search for LAX-HKG, then HKG-BKK). Note that AS award availability is only for 330 days, the BA engine will show availability to 365 days.
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Award Travel on Cathay Pacific
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
CX (Cathay) Award availability
Dec 29, 2015, 7:27 pm
#1096
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
Small point - when I've modified seat assignments using QR, my known traveler number falls out. Naturally, if originating on CX this won't matter, but if taking an AS (or AA) connecting flight, it means you don't get Pre. There's probably a way to reattached the KTN, and maybe this was just a fluke. But figured I'd mention it. BTW, 2A is the best CX seat as FAs will rarely walk by unless serving you. Problem with 1A is you might get somebody needy behind you, meaning there will be tons of foot traffic by your seat. IIRC, 2A also has an additional window?
Sorry I should have told you that you will need agents to look segment by segment to get the CX awards to work right after looking up segment by segment on BA site. I had that happen once on a BOS-JFK-SFO-LAX-ANC F booking. They couldn't see the BOS-JFK-LAX when i tried to drop the SFO leg. Once they added JFK to the search criteria it came up.
Dec 30, 2015, 1:45 pm
#1097
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
Small point - when I've modified seat assignments using QR, my known traveler number falls out. Naturally, if originating on CX this won't matter, but if taking an AS (or AA) connecting flight, it means you don't get Pre. There's probably a way to reattached the KTN, and maybe this was just a fluke. But figured I'd mention it. BTW, 2A is the best CX seat as FAs will rarely walk by unless serving you. Problem with 1A is you might get somebody needy behind you, meaning there will be tons of foot traffic by your seat. IIRC, 2A also has an additional window?
Jan 8, 2016, 9:15 pm
#1098
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
Has anyone used the QR site to select seats lately?
Just did a change on existing AS awards. On QR site the new flight correctly showing up, but I could no longer find the function to change seats.
i have not received new e-tickets from AS yet. The agent said it would take a while for the new tickets to come. One PNR has upfared and date//flight changed. The other PNR has date/flight changed only.
Saudi site gave an error on the old ticket numbers directly copied from AS site. In the past even a ticket is exchanged, Saudi site would still pull up the ticket details and would give the coupon status as exchange.
The last time I used Saudi site for this purpose was in 2014 with UA issused 016 tickets. Saudi site was a godsent tool to monitor UA tickets being issued correctly. I dont know if Saudi site can still up other issuers' tickets.
I have not checked the AS tickets on Saudi site before the change. The failure to pull up the AS tickets on Saudi site worries me.
EDIT
Got the new tickets. Apparently AS tickets are not pullable on Saudi site. CheckMyTrip has the new tickets.
i have not received new e-tickets from AS yet. The agent said it would take a while for the new tickets to come. One PNR has upfared and date//flight changed. The other PNR has date/flight changed only.
Saudi site gave an error on the old ticket numbers directly copied from AS site. In the past even a ticket is exchanged, Saudi site would still pull up the ticket details and would give the coupon status as exchange.
The last time I used Saudi site for this purpose was in 2014 with UA issused 016 tickets. Saudi site was a godsent tool to monitor UA tickets being issued correctly. I dont know if Saudi site can still up other issuers' tickets.
I have not checked the AS tickets on Saudi site before the change. The failure to pull up the AS tickets on Saudi site worries me.
EDIT
Got the new tickets. Apparently AS tickets are not pullable on Saudi site. CheckMyTrip has the new tickets.
Last edited by Happy; Jan 8, 2016 at 9:42 pm
Jan 11, 2016, 5:48 am
#1099
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: West Coast, USA
Programs: Skywards Platinum
Posts: 3,747
I am having problems getting AS to see CX award availability. Decided to not to anything complex and just a simple SFO-HKG. One the BA site I can see several days with P/E, J and F availability. I call AS to book and they can only see P/E for all of the days where I can see lots of J and some F.
So, I call AA, and they have no problem seeing the inventory so I book the ticket with my AA miles.
So, I call AA, and they have no problem seeing the inventory so I book the ticket with my AA miles.
Jan 11, 2016, 5:58 am
#1100
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: in your favourite lounge, clearing the whole buffet
Programs: LH Maximizer of the year, BA Blue Label killer
Posts: 1,001
If I book an intra-Asian flight with connecting in HKG, e.g. BKK-HKG-ICN, will this count as one journey with 12500mi for the whole ticket or 12500mi for each sector?
Jan 11, 2016, 11:17 am
#1102
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,621
Hi -
As long as your layover is less than 24 hours, you will only be charged for one redemption.
As long as your layover is less than 24 hours, you will only be charged for one redemption.
Jan 11, 2016, 7:22 pm
#1103
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
Jan 12, 2016, 12:52 am
#1104
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
I'm thinking hard about going to Australia early next year, but the problem is I only have enough miles for a one-way redemption in QF J or F. So, given what I've heard here, heading home via CX (maybe even with a HKG stopover) on a last-minute redemption once I've earned those extra miles sounds tempting. Since I don't want to find myself having to buy a last-minute one-way Y fare, though, I'm curious whether you all have any tips on securing space in advance. Will I be safe if I just wait until a week or so before my return and keep my schedule flexible, or should I book a Y or Y+ award home farther in advance? And in that case, would I be able to upfare to J or F closer to departure if space were to appear?
Jan 12, 2016, 3:37 pm
#1105
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,385
On CX awards, can you have your stopover in YVR on a one-way award?
Jan 12, 2016, 4:30 pm
#1106
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Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,392
Jan 12, 2016, 9:32 pm
#1107
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern Calif./Eastern Ida.
Programs: Amethyst Premier Plutonium Medallion
Posts: 20,643
I'm thinking hard about going to Australia early next year, but the problem is I only have enough miles for a one-way redemption in QF J or F. So, given what I've heard here, heading home via CX (maybe even with a HKG stopover) on a last-minute redemption once I've earned those extra miles sounds tempting. Since I don't want to find myself having to buy a last-minute one-way Y fare, though, I'm curious whether you all have any tips on securing space in advance. Will I be safe if I just wait until a week or so before my return and keep my schedule flexible, or should I book a Y or Y+ award home farther in advance? And in that case, would I be able to upfare to J or F closer to departure if space were to appear?
Jan 13, 2016, 6:19 pm
#1109
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eastern Washington
Programs: AS MVPGold 75K
Posts: 81
Traveling soon. I'm in first and daughter in business LAX-HKG (hoping an award seat will open in first). Curious if she will be allowed to come and sit with me for a bit in the guest seat in my spacious seating area and perhaps have a drink with me. I know if she was in first it wouldn't be problem at all and in fact could have meals together etc. But not sure if they even let a business passenger into the first class area.
Anyone experience split class seating when traveling with family and know if they allow this?
Getting excited for two weeks of adventures!
Anyone experience split class seating when traveling with family and know if they allow this?
Getting excited for two weeks of adventures!
Jan 13, 2016, 6:33 pm
#1110
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,541
the answer is no.
I would recommend putting your daughter in row 11, while you sit in row 2. You will need status to book row 11 in advance. 12 may be available. This way she is within earshot in the event of an emergency (row 2 and 11 are separated by a curtain).
You will be allowed to look in on your daughter. In fact, you'll be able to walk through the entire airplane en route to HKG.
Your experience may differ flying back to the U.S. In that direction, my experience is crews ask F pax not to leave their cabin, due to U.S. regulations. Once or twice this hasn't been enforced, but of my 7 or so CX F roundtrips I've had free reign flying to HKG, but not flying home.
Under no circumstance will your daughter be allowed up to F. It will irritate the flight crew, it will put them and you in an incredibly awkward position for even posing the question. I'd fear an awkward flight if you get off on the wrong foot by asking.
I hope this helps. I know you asked the question innocently enough, but I think you'll find it touches a nerve with people on FT.
Enjoy the vacation, and I hope you both get up front. 1A/2A best for people traveling together, as there's less foot traffic on that side of the cabin.
Jamie
I would recommend putting your daughter in row 11, while you sit in row 2. You will need status to book row 11 in advance. 12 may be available. This way she is within earshot in the event of an emergency (row 2 and 11 are separated by a curtain).
You will be allowed to look in on your daughter. In fact, you'll be able to walk through the entire airplane en route to HKG.
Your experience may differ flying back to the U.S. In that direction, my experience is crews ask F pax not to leave their cabin, due to U.S. regulations. Once or twice this hasn't been enforced, but of my 7 or so CX F roundtrips I've had free reign flying to HKG, but not flying home.
Under no circumstance will your daughter be allowed up to F. It will irritate the flight crew, it will put them and you in an incredibly awkward position for even posing the question. I'd fear an awkward flight if you get off on the wrong foot by asking.
I hope this helps. I know you asked the question innocently enough, but I think you'll find it touches a nerve with people on FT.
Enjoy the vacation, and I hope you both get up front. 1A/2A best for people traveling together, as there's less foot traffic on that side of the cabin.
Jamie
Last edited by jamienbaker; Jan 13, 2016 at 7:01 pm