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johnnyfive Jun 29, 2019 2:31 pm

New Koru access rules coming next week [July 2019]
 
“Overcrowding in Air New Zealand's premium lounges is forcing the airline to make it harder to get into them.
It's understood the airline will announce new rules early next week to ensure its most frequent flyers get a better deal at the same time as it's about to get harder for those who earn points on some credit cards to access them.“

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12244829

sbiddle Jun 29, 2019 3:06 pm

Already being discussed in existing threads.

kiwifrequentflyer Jun 29, 2019 3:17 pm

A dedicated thread makes sense for such a big change.

Outbound24 Jun 29, 2019 10:38 pm

Is there anyway to read the whole article without subscribing to the Herald? It appears to be behind a paywall for me.

Ellice Jun 29, 2019 11:27 pm

The nzh article says the credit card spend is going up in July that is required to earn lounge passes and the number being capped to four a year for some credit cards. Be interesting to see whether that is in fact the problem or whether it’s the amount of elites/the generous guesting rules/families with kids rules etc that is creating the overcrowding.

kiwifrequentflyer Jun 29, 2019 11:38 pm

Air NZ surely know the numbers. I am surprised though. I wouldn't have thought credit card vouchers would be rhat many people in the lounges. The spend is quite a lot, and I would have thought that those of us that get lots of them from our business spend are usually also traveling for business already and have status anyway. Last I knew I had 30+ vouchers that will literally never get used. Most people would get 2 a year, max.

Xiaotung Jun 30, 2019 12:00 am

I am surprised with the removal of VA flights and elites things still have not gotten better.

stick1 Jun 30, 2019 12:18 am

The article says:

"It's understood the airline will announce new rules early next week to ensure its most frequent flyers get a better deal at the same time as it's about to get harder for those who earn points on some credit cards to access them."

To me this hints at a decrease in status point earn rates on credit cards. But we'll know soon enough.

drajknox Jun 30, 2019 5:15 am


Originally Posted by stick1 (Post 31253953)
The article says:

"It's understood the airline will announce new rules early next week to ensure its most frequent flyers get a better deal at the same time as it's about to get harder for those who earn points on some credit cards to access them."

To me this hints at a decrease in status point earn rates on credit cards. But we'll know soon enough.

I would doubt it as their website already mentions spend to get a voucher using ANZ card increasing from 10jul and maximum 4 vouchers/y. I have not seen a mention of SP changes.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...62b77955d1.png

nzkarit Jun 30, 2019 12:47 pm

Can a mod change the title to switch "next week" with "July 2019”?

Thanks

nzkarit Jun 30, 2019 12:54 pm

Looking at
https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoints-direct-earn-credit-card-comparison-table

For the AirNZ//Kiwibank they are also switching to Visa. From 1 July

https://www.kiwibank.co.nz/personal-banking/credit-cards/managing-your-card/moving-visa/

So yay a bunch of payments to change over :)

Markhm Jun 30, 2019 4:10 pm

I just received an email from NZ saying we get bonus SPs per 10 journeys. Good outcome.

Elite guests reduced to 3.

nzkarit Jun 30, 2019 4:17 pm


Originally Posted by Markhm (Post 31256062)
I just received an email from NZ saying we get bonus SPs per 10 journeys. Good outcome.

Elite guests reduced to 3.

Can you include the full email while we wait for them to send the email to everyone?

Is there anymore on the bonus? Like how much and how they define journey? Can we game the system, with returns aren't married, by booking a bunch of one ways e.g. domestically

sbiddle Jun 30, 2019 4:18 pm

Credit card SP earn was never going to be affected. It will be affected if and when interchange rates are cut in NZ (report was due before the just election but delayed and Labour don't seem interested in the issue).

We should have interchange rates and rules similar to Australia to stop consumers being ripped off.
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Markhm Jun 30, 2019 4:23 pm


Originally Posted by nzkarit (Post 31256082)
Can you include the full email while we wait for them to send the email to everyone?

Is there anymore on the bonus? Like how much and how they define journey? Can we game the system, with returns aren't married, by booking a bunch of one ways e.g. domestically

sorry I can’t post emails out of our secure outlook Ap.

30 SPs bonus per 10 journeys, seems like they are flights. As many times, uncapped bonus

parent hold ability for new parents to maintain status frozen.


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