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macdo Apr 13, 2018 7:03 pm

Trent woes
 
Air New Zealand passengers face more disruption as Dreamliners hit by further Rolls-Royce engine problems - NZ Herald

inspection frequency from 1:2000 cycles to 1:300. Talk of ETOPS range limited to 140 minutes.
RadioNZ says affects 9 of AirNZ fleet.
"Some disruption" expected.

cavemanzk Apr 13, 2018 7:06 pm


Originally Posted by macdo (Post 29638188)
Air New Zealand passengers face more disruption as Dreamliners hit by further Rolls-Royce engine problems - NZ Herald

inspection frequency from 1:2000 cycles to 1:300. Talk of ETOPS range limited to 140 minutes.
RadioNZ says affects 9 of AirNZ fleet.
"Some disruption" expected.

Will HiFly make an return?

Rebound Apr 13, 2018 7:14 pm

Just had one of my flights retimed next week on a 787 to Bali and back, hopefully no cancellations.

graham_d Apr 13, 2018 10:51 pm

Which routes would be effected by the 140 minutes ETOPS restriction? I cannot imagine the stress there would be at RR right now!

sbiddle Apr 14, 2018 12:12 am


Originally Posted by graham_d (Post 29638645)
Which routes would be effected by the 140 minutes ETOPS restriction? I cannot imagine the stress there would be at RR right now!

Probably none. I wrote about this issue this morning but now understand both new aircraft have the TEN option while the rest of the fleet now have a Package B and a TEN engine. There isn't a reason to suspend ETOPS on an aircraft fitted with 2x TEN engines.

Doesn't mean it won't happen though..if it did it would affect all flights to North and South America.

NZbutterfly Apr 14, 2018 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by cavemanzk (Post 29638200)
Will HiFly make an return?

Is there any other company that offers a similar service to what high fly does? But with better planes? Although if NZ has now established a relationship with hi fly that may make it easier to return.

Thai-Kiwi Apr 14, 2018 1:51 pm

I think the Trent issue and associated additional maintenance inspections is also affecting THAI Airways flights BKK-AKL vv. The usual 777-200ER was recently changed to 787-900 - finally bringing a flat seat J to this route. TG has only 2 789s so far.

One of the 2 aircraft (HS-TWA) has not flown since 5 April, which means AKL has seen a 789 alternating with 787-800, 777-200ER and 777-300ER types on the other days. GDS loading shows a return to daily 789 services around 22 April. At least they have a large enough fleet to better absorb the impacts.

cavemanzk Apr 14, 2018 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by NZbutterfly (Post 29640256)
Is there any other company that offers a similar service to what high fly does? But with better planes? Although if NZ has now established a relationship with hi fly that may make it easier to return.

There must be a couple out there, HiFly is getting 2x A380s ex SQ shortly which are currently getting soft refits but keeping SQ product.

codyc1515 Apr 15, 2018 3:07 am

I can't tell by the way that the article is written but is this now two issues? i.e. more frequent inspections required and one-off turbine blade maintenance

Either way this is going to cost someone a mint!

rontse Apr 16, 2018 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by sbiddle (Post 29638739)
Probably none. I wrote about this issue this morning but now understand both new aircraft have the TEN option while the rest of the fleet now have a Package B and a TEN engine. There isn't a reason to suspend ETOPS on an aircraft fitted with 2x TEN engines.

Doesn't mean it won't happen though..if it did it would affect all flights to North and South America.

Dont think ANZ has any Package B engines, 787-9 can only be powered by Cs or TENs.

NZbutterfly Apr 16, 2018 8:25 pm


Originally Posted by cavemanzk (Post 29641153)
There must be a couple out there, HiFly is getting 2x A380s ex SQ shortly which are currently getting soft refits but keeping SQ product.

Combine the 2 AKL-LAX flights to hifly A380 SQ hard product:p just kidding...

sbiddle Apr 17, 2018 1:28 am


Originally Posted by rontse (Post 29647875)


Dont think ANZ has any Package B engines, 787-9 can only be powered by Cs or TENs.

Typo I didn't spot. I meant C.

hodi Apr 17, 2018 2:06 pm

Hmm my flight on NZ28 in early June is still listed as such and seats still allocated but when I go in to seat select saying not operated by Air Nz. One next week is fine still though although is now telling me I have no checked bags!

sbiddle Apr 17, 2018 2:17 pm


Originally Posted by hodi (Post 29652547)
Hmm my flight on NZ28 in early June is still listed as such and seats still allocated but when I go in to seat select saying not operated by Air Nz. One next week is fine still though although is now telling me I have no checked bags!

My understanding is IAH is about to be moved back to a 777 to free up the TEN powered 789 from that route.

hodi Apr 17, 2018 2:22 pm


Originally Posted by sbiddle (Post 29652600)
My understanding is IAH is about to be moved back to a 777 to free up the TEN powered 789 from that route.

Ah great thanks. Think it will blow any pending APD chance from PE?

So is this a permanent maintenance requirement or is there a fix that will allow these craft to get back to prior schedules? I get lost in the technical deets!


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