No-guest lounge access at CDG 2D
Dec 27, 2018, 1:08 am
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I can confirm this (Elite+). It happened to me mid-november (Business class ticket) on that very flight CDG>PRG, trying to bring a guest with me. I ended up loading up my bag with food, drinks and papers and taking them elsewhere to share with my guest. Went back for seconds.
Dec 27, 2018, 3:47 pm
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Correct, but even if the metal is Skyteam, they do not allow a guest at CDG 2D.
Furthermore, you will agree that this Skyteam metal "rule" is nonsense. As long as we buy a ticket from AF, with an AF flight number, we should be treated the same as on any AF coded flight, shouldn't we? Especially when AF controls the access to the lounge via the contract they sign with Sheltair such as in CDG 2D.
In my latest case, this was not a cheap ticket. Over € 400 each. They sold one ticket to my client only because I insisted he flew AF coded (I knew we would have access to the lounge in HEL). Otherwise, he would have bought from AY.
Furthermore, you will agree that this Skyteam metal "rule" is nonsense. As long as we buy a ticket from AF, with an AF flight number, we should be treated the same as on any AF coded flight, shouldn't we? Especially when AF controls the access to the lounge via the contract they sign with Sheltair such as in CDG 2D.
In my latest case, this was not a cheap ticket. Over € 400 each. They sold one ticket to my client only because I insisted he flew AF coded (I knew we would have access to the lounge in HEL). Otherwise, he would have bought from AY.
Dec 27, 2018, 3:48 pm
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Dec 27, 2018, 3:52 pm
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And furthermore, there are rules about flights that are SkyTeampartner coded/marketed/ticketed but not operated by a SkyTeam member not earning redeemable or status miles.
Dec 27, 2018, 7:33 pm
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Dec 27, 2018, 7:41 pm
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Lounge access benefits should be the same as with AF operated flights (such as in HEL), shouldn't they?
Mar 3, 2019, 2:42 pm
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CDG 2D -> PRG - AF coded / OK Metal - UX STE+ - Access granted to me ?
I can confirm this (Elite+). It happened to me mid-november (Business class ticket) on that very flight CDG>PRG, trying to bring a guest with me. I ended up loading up my bag with food, drinks and papers and taking them elsewhere to share with my guest. Went back for seconds.
I will be flying fro CDG 2D to PRG on an AF coded OK metal flight.
As an Air Europa (UX) Gold (STE+), will I be even granted the access to the Sheltair lounge as a STE+ not OK nor FB?
If anyone as such an experience with any ST FFP different from OK/FB
Thx
Mar 3, 2019, 11:41 pm
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yes you will, but no guest apparently.
Mar 4, 2019, 9:54 am
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Travelling alone this time so no guest experience.
I don’t know, when I have shown my shiny UX Gold STE+ card, the dragon at the lounge entrance had to place a call to make sure I am entitled to get in...
No answer over the phone . Après 17h normal.
Then I started in French : 0.0 « well I am SkyTeam Elite Plus, Can’t You scan my BP to check in the system? »
« No I need a card » (just shown my STE+ card she obviously never saw in the past or she is mentioning something else...)
« Well, I am sure You are not entitled to but get in »
Seems that the shiny bag tag effect perfectly plopping on my carry-on’s handles + DYKWIA did work.
Hopefully I won’t be charged at the exit like the tolls, cuz there is no « Yellow Jackets » to leave me the way out 😂
I don’t know, when I have shown my shiny UX Gold STE+ card, the dragon at the lounge entrance had to place a call to make sure I am entitled to get in...
No answer over the phone . Après 17h normal.
Then I started in French : 0.0 « well I am SkyTeam Elite Plus, Can’t You scan my BP to check in the system? »
« No I need a card » (just shown my STE+ card she obviously never saw in the past or she is mentioning something else...)
« Well, I am sure You are not entitled to but get in »
Seems that the shiny bag tag effect perfectly plopping on my carry-on’s handles + DYKWIA did work.
Hopefully I won’t be charged at the exit like the tolls, cuz there is no « Yellow Jackets » to leave me the way out 😂
Last edited by catsniper75; Mar 4, 2019 at 10:27 am
Jun 20, 2021, 4:58 am
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I am flying early july with a ticket sold by AF with AF Coded flight on AirMalta Metal. The flight is now leaving from T2B; I read that T2B and T2D are now forming one terminal like T2A and T2C (altrough I was not able to find a map of the new terminal on Paris Aeroport Web site) .
Is the lounge in T2D open ? does any one has any experience recently to being a guest in this T2D lounge as I understand it was not possible in 2019.
I fly back on AF metal, so hopefully lounge access in Malta airport will be granted for me and my guest;
Is the lounge in T2D open ? does any one has any experience recently to being a guest in this T2D lounge as I understand it was not possible in 2019.
I fly back on AF metal, so hopefully lounge access in Malta airport will be granted for me and my guest;
Jun 20, 2021, 12:37 pm
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I am flying early july with a ticket sold by AF with AF Coded flight on AirMalta Metal. The flight is now leaving from T2B; I read that T2B and T2D are now forming one terminal like T2A and T2C (altrough I was not able to find a map of the new terminal on Paris Aeroport Web site) .
Is the lounge in T2D open ? does any one has any experience recently to being a guest in this T2D lounge as I understand it was not possible in 2019.
I fly back on AF metal, so hopefully lounge access in Malta airport will be granted for me and my guest;
Is the lounge in T2D open ? does any one has any experience recently to being a guest in this T2D lounge as I understand it was not possible in 2019.
I fly back on AF metal, so hopefully lounge access in Malta airport will be granted for me and my guest;
For the lounge, no idea. I think you're the one who will tell us. Even if there is a lounge in 2B, be prepared for some disappointment potentially, as AF has cut back many arrangements around code-shares (not acceptable IMO but this is it). During the last 12 months, I heard and we read here on FT several cases of lounge access refused on code-share flights, even in 2F (if I remember well, we had someone here who reported being refused lounge access in 2F when flying Air Baltic booked under AF code and while this flight was leaving from 2F
).
Jun 20, 2021, 1:32 pm
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The junction building between 2B and 2D is indeed open, but once airside, I think only 2B is really open at the moment. In post covid mode, it will not really be a joint terminal as there will be a Schengen and a non-Schengen part.
For the lounge, no idea. I think you're the one who will tell us. Even if there is a lounge in 2B, be prepared for some disappointment potentially, as AF has cut back many arrangements around code-shares (not acceptable IMO but this is it). During the last 12 months, I heard and we read here on FT several cases of lounge access refused on code-share flights, even in 2F (if I remember well, we had someone here who reported being refused lounge access in 2F when flying Air Baltic booked under AF code and while this flight was leaving from 2F).
For the lounge, no idea. I think you're the one who will tell us. Even if there is a lounge in 2B, be prepared for some disappointment potentially, as AF has cut back many arrangements around code-shares (not acceptable IMO but this is it). During the last 12 months, I heard and we read here on FT several cases of lounge access refused on code-share flights, even in 2F (if I remember well, we had someone here who reported being refused lounge access in 2F when flying Air Baltic booked under AF code and while this flight was leaving from 2F
).
Jul 2, 2021, 1:00 am
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As promised I report back : the lounge in T2D is well open but as expected no guest allowed. I chat with the friendly guy at the entrance and he confirms me that AF only allowed the card member to enter the lounge, he also find it strange as it is an AF code flight even if operateur by another carrier.
I will write AF to complain and see the answer they will do;
On a side note check even if checking is in 2B you access to boarding gates of 2B or 2D through the new building between 2D and 2B where the security check stand.
I will write AF to complain and see the answer they will do;
On a side note check even if checking is in 2B you access to boarding gates of 2B or 2D through the new building between 2D and 2B where the security check stand.