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Jan 11, 2018, 11:08 am

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Originally Posted by Zarmakuizz

KLM doesn't allow anybody in the cockpit during take-off, flight, and landing. At least I have been told that on a AMS->ORD flight we got upgraded to Business.

I had the pleasure of a cockpit visit on a longish intraEU KLM flight sometime after 9/11. I was shocked to notice FAs escorting a long of kids in and out of the cockpit, but then I thought "why not me too?" and asked the FA. It might have helped that I was in an aisle seat in about the second row with very few others in front of the curtain that day. Anyway, being last in the line, I was able to stay there until it was time for the crew to focus on landing.

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Jan 11, 2018, 11:11 am

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Originally Posted by ranskis

It happened to me last year when take off was delayed due to luggage loads, I was in business class and chatted a bit with the captain. He comes back a few minutes later telling me he saw I was one of their best customers (platinum for life and platinum seem to be differentiated on their ipad) and since it was his birthday, he would be glad that I join them for the flight in the cockpit. It was an excellent flight

Did the FAs serve *you* drinks in the cockpit?

Jan 12, 2018, 2:49 am

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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist

Did the FAs serve *you* drinks in the cockpit?

Of course drinks are served in the cockpit but I would not order *drinks* when sitting there

You just need to make sure you don't hold your drink above the central commands pane.

Jan 13, 2018, 12:47 am

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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk

Because FAA. While they're not regulators of the KLM home country, they still have a say about flight to from or over the US.

Except that this is not true. I have been on numerous flights to and from the US in the cockpit. Last time was five days ago, on a flight to Miami.

I know for a fact that the UK does not allow it any more for any flight. I did think that Israel was the same, except that another poster gave evidence of flights where passengers have been in the cockpit to/from Israel.

Jun 22, 2018, 3:17 pm

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Jun 22, 2018, 6:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Arline8

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Sorry man but apart from the exorbitant sexism in your post, sounds more like to me that the woman in heels was non-rev & airline employee and since the flight was full, she took a seat in the cockpit? Don't see any drama here.

On the sidenote, sterile cockpit is a rule that applies for landing and take off (i.e. when the plane is below 10000 feet), not during the entire flight (when autopilot has full control of the flight anyway).

Jun 22, 2018, 8:57 pm

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Jun 22, 2018, 10:43 pm

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Jun 23, 2018, 2:56 am

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Originally Posted by Arline8

YES..

Damn this was hard to read, felt a bit like The Matrix "Woman in the red dress"

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Jun 23, 2018, 3:01 am

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Damn this was hard to read, felt a bit like The Matrix "Woman in the red dress"

yes. I need some rest now

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Jun 23, 2018, 3:06 am

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I take it Arline8 will never fly VS. Or EK. Red shoes everywhere! And I'm sure I'm forgetting others.

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Jun 23, 2018, 7:45 am

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Originally Posted by CosmicGirl

I take it Arline8 will never fly VS. Or EK. Red shoes everywhere! And I'm sure I'm forgetting others.

Let alone Austrian Airlines. The entire woman is red! And they've even been seen near the cockpit!! And worse than that, Austrian flies to Madeira!!! And sometimes they are even delayed!!!! Osama has been resurrected in the body of a flight attendant from the pastures of the Tyrolean Alps.

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Jun 24, 2018, 7:30 am

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Jun 24, 2018, 9:21 am

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Originally Posted by Arline8

LMAO they are serving outside they are not inside the cockpit 24 hours further and complementing your sarcastic comedy they are not using high heels and they dont fit all together in the cockpit. In terms of possession I do not really think Osama liked men... anyway...

So do you really think that never ever does a flight attendant go into the cockpit? Thank you. You have just confirmed what many of us thought, you are completely unfamiliar with procedures at airlines. FAs go into the cockpit all the time: to serve food/drinks, to deliver the "cabin clear" report, or simply to come in during a longer flight and have a chat, look out of the windows, ask how much longer it is, etc.

@ other posters: I think we should collectively switch into "don't feed the troll" mode to keep some degree of mental sanity in this forum.

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Jun 24, 2018, 11:05 am

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