Originally Posted by San Gottardo
(Post 27508752)
Arrivals in Miami's AA terminal, all of which where notorious for very long lines at immigration
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Originally Posted by SDQBound
(Post 27508808)
I've noticed that the Exit immigration control has become slower as well. On a Saturday afternoon, during non-vacation period, it took me at least half an hour through the SkyPriority line. The reason was understaffing. For my arrival flight, it took me at least 45 minutes to clear immigration (7:00 am, same time as Goldorak), the issue here was that the officers were asking a lot of questions to visitors (even those excempt from visa were being questioned about their lenght of stay and Financial resources).
I've got a 7:30am flight out of 2E on Thursday. Not looking forward to having to arrive early due to the uncertainty of wait times at exit controls. |
Originally Posted by stimpy
(Post 27509985)
There is if you fly AF P! At least at IAD I witnessed it. Driven to immigration in a private Mercedes and escorted to the front of the line. And bags arrived first before any others. Clearly AF pays the airport authority for the good service.
Originally Posted by orbitmic
(Post 27510780)
I wouldn't exonerate them of their reputation just yet. Two of my last three MIA arrivals took well over 2 hours to clear immigration (having used kiosks each time!) :(
But back to topic: indeed, the longest immigration lines that I can recall to have been in recently were in Paris CDG (not only 2E, but also in terminal 1) and London LHR, despite priority and access to biometric controls. So I am glad CDG is addressing the situation, and I sincerely hope that things will improve markedly. |
Originally Posted by San Gottardo
(Post 27512981)
Ough... terrible. Last things I had heard was that it had gotten much much better. I feel for you.
In fact, CBP publish wait times at immigration and when you look it shows that depending on entry point (there are three at MIA), day, and time, things can easily vary between 15 minutes and over 3 hours! |
Originally Posted by San Gottardo
(Post 27512981)
I doubt that Air France or any airline pays the airport for faster immigration (they probably do for the car transfer),
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Today I attended a lunch with the CEO of ADP and the long lines were one of the most popular subjects witrh him. He mentionned that he aims to have the first batch of "new PARAFE" by the very beginning of 2017. Not sure how they can speed up things this much, but that's what he mentioned.
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
(Post 27513139)
In fact, CBP publish wait times at immigration and when you look it shows that depending on entry point (there are three at MIA), day, and time, things can easily vary between 15 minutes and over 3 hours!
Hopefully this new system helps CDG. |
Originally Posted by CDGcommuter
(Post 27513849)
Today I attended a lunch with the CEO of ADP and the long lines were one of the most popular subjects witrh him. He mentionned that he aims to have the first batch of "new PARAFE" by the very beginning of 2017. Not sure how they can speed up things this much, but that's what he mentioned.
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Originally Posted by stimpy
(Post 27509985)
There is if you fly AF P! At least at IAD I witnessed it. Driven to immigration in a private Mercedes and escorted to the front of the line. And bags arrived first before any others. Clearly AF pays the airport authority for the good service.
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Originally Posted by FlyerWx
(Post 27515043)
MIA definitely does vary -- at the North Terminal Immigration, one has to figure the banks of AA's international flights coming in. In my experience, times have improved, albeit slightly.
Hopefully this new system helps CDG. |
Originally Posted by brunos
(Post 27503745)
BTW: Just looking at the length of the line is not always a good indicator. If the waiting line is served by a large number of immigration agents with fast procedure (like in Hong Kong and even now the US), it will flow much faster than at CDG where they only open a few desks and control takes a very long time.
Originally Posted by NickB
(Post 27505835)
Of limited use to many Europeans, though: only NL, D and UK nationals are eligible for GE in Europe (setting aside US residents).
Looking at it from the US perspective, I can only use automated border controls in the EU in the above mentioned countries, and only with a separate enrollment in each program. Basically an expensive PITA. In contrast, any return ESTA visitor can use the US Automated Passport Control kiosks (not the same ones as GE, but the same ones that any other US citizen or permanent resident can use), with no pre-enrollment required. Not every entry point has APC kiosks (an airport or airline has to pay for them), but they are at several key entry points.
Originally Posted by tff
(Post 27508219)
I might have been unlucky, but it took me 2h at JFK two weeks ago (having been among the first ones to deplane) as a returning ESTA.
Originally Posted by San Gottardo
(Post 27508756)
Of course there is another difference, which is that there is nothing like a priority line at US airports, unlike CDG.
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Originally Posted by bennos
(Post 27517789)
IME, HKG with long lines still means long waits. It typically takes me 30 minutes to clear there (early evening arrivals).
. That being said, I have numerous family/friends who use the "human" chanel and they ahev never had to wait more than 20 minutes. You even have staff that direct you between A and B areas if one area ifs more crowded than the other. |
Originally Posted by San Gottardo
(Post 27508752)
Err... yes. So? The point I was trying to make is that the US has upgraded its airports and places like T5 in Chicago or TBIT in Los Angeles or Intl. Arrivals in Miami's AA terminal, all of which where notorious for very long lines at immigration, have added between 25 and 50 GE kiosks. Which as written further up by another poster, takes pressure of "the system".
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Originally Posted by bennos
(Post 27517789)
Well, specifically GE is a trusted traveler program with reciprocal privileges with the equivalent programs in those countries.
Looking at it from the US perspective, I can only use automated border controls in the EU in the above mentioned countries, and only with a separate enrollment in each program. Basically an expensive PITA. So, knowing that GE kiosks work well and that there are plenty of them is interesting... in the same way as, say, knowing whether automated kiosks for EAC nationals at Kigali airport work well might be interesting, i.e. in the sense of being capable of satisfying intellectual curiosity ... but with little practical significance for many here, bearing in mind the readership. I would not have made the same comment on the KL, BA or LH forum, where the existence of GE and how well it functions is of far greater immediate relevance to a much larger proportion of the readers of those fora than is the case here. |
Originally Posted by bennos
(Post 27517789)
Looking at it from the US perspective, I can only use automated border controls in the EU in the above mentioned countries, and only with a separate enrollment in each program. Basically an expensive PITA.
Back to the US, I entered at LAX today and gosh what a let down after lots of very good experiences at IAD this year. LAX does not support the mobile app, and they have some very clueless line monitors who mix up US citizens and visitors in the same lines. I got sent to a line behind a lot of visitors who were taking 10 minutes each and there was only a single agent. After about 20 minutes another agent came along, but still I was there quite a while. And when I finally made it to an agent I was through in less than a minute of course. As for HKG, as mentioned above frequent flyers can easily get setup to use the E-Gates so there should never be a wait. |
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