Ah. Living in SFO, I can't fly international AC without a stop, so it doesn't have that benefit to me.

But the 787 is nice :)

YYZ-MAD-YYZ in Y

60k miles

Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $20.60
Spain Departure Charge $24.40
OG $0.60
Spanish Security Tax $4.00
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $2.60
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $19.90
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services $24.00
Total per passenger $96.10
Total passengers 1
$96.10
Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges (USD) $96.10

However, the Nav Canada fee is listed as "Carrier Admin. Service Charge (YR)" in the itinerary PDF. So what is it, a Nav Canada fee, or a "carrier admin service charge"?

Here is what matrix says:

AC YQ surcharge (YQ)
US$286.80

Toronto Airport Improvement Fee (SQ)
US$19.90

Canadian Harmonized Sales Tax (ON) (RC)
US$2.60

Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge (CA)
US$20.60

Spain JD (JD)
US$24.40

Spain QV (QV)
US$4.00

Spain OG (OG)
US$0.60

Total US$72.10

There is no legitimate US$24.00 NAV Canada charge.

Please tell me YR is not the new YQ for redemptions. Obviously $24 is much less than $286, but if they're just going to invent a YR on redemptions to offset the loss of YQ, that makes the perk less useful.

Booked this itinerary for the end of September for two people.

YOW-YYZ Y AC
YYZ-IST J TK (Stop)
IST-PRG J TK (Stop)
BCN-IST J TK
IST-YYZ J TK
YYZ-YOW Y AC

$150.28 taxes and fees per person

That's an awesome itinerary ^

Cancelled YYZ-SYD on AC33. We had 2Y 1J tickets and 2 preferred seating. Got back $1770!

Booked United LAX-SYD 3J, $188.00! I did have to "buy" 3Y YYZ-LAX with dDiamond but there was a fare sale so 49,000 miles vs 76,000 the day before with $242.00YQ.

So I did "lose" the 49,000 miles (LAX-SYD is the same miles as YYZ-LAX-SYD) but got a decent departure time leaving us 8 hours in LA, always wanted to visit Venice beach.

The money we got back from AC went to spending an extended stay in central Brisbane at a much nicer place on AirBnB than we originally had. :) With money still left for a quick hotel stay in LA.

Thanks AC!!!:p:p:p:p

Just booked 2 one way flights from BCN-FRA-LHR-YVR all in J for $713 for both. Ouch! Booked for spring break next year.

Why not Swiss or Turkish to avoid YQ?

Or on LH F since they opened up SFO and LAX A380 until end of schedule? (Or is that done now?)

I got the following itinerary all in J.
YYZ-PEK (STOP), PEK-TPE (STOP), TPE-PVG, PVG-YYZ. AC and CA flights. For June to July.
Only problem about direct flights is the expensive surcharge..paid $6xx.xx and used 150,000 miles..Ok deal at least?

BTW, was wondering if I can add another stop to this itinerary. I also want to stop at SIN. Not sure if that is possible.

1 way FRA-LAX in LH F:

62,500 miles + $430.80 ($277.50 YQ) per person.

Very much a case of book now, ask questions later. Needed a way to get back from South Africa in February and locking in a nice and long LH A380 F flight was too tempting to pass up. The German departure taxes are absolutely atrocious - I'll probably fix it later to depart from another European country or from SA depending on what I can find.

Was gritting my teeth as I'm currently sitting on a liveaboard in the Celebes Sea, and doing the AMEX MR transfer/booking on AP with a very weak 3G internet connection. :p

If you had stopped in Hong Kong in addition or in lieu of Taipei, I noticed the fuel surcharge part drops to about 100 even with the AC flight to Beijing

Once again I noticed how unlucky we are with all the surcharges charged by AP. I wanted to book a one-way ticket LGA-YUL.

Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services $7.50
U.S. International Transportation Tax $21.70
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee $6.90
U.S Passenger Facility Charge $5.50

Total per passenger $41.60 and 7500 AP points

Same route on same day with American Airlines using 4500 Avios: $6.86

I had enough avios this time so I booked with AA.

Why can't AP charge the same? :(

Nav Canada is an AC surcharge similar to YQ. It is not a legitimate tax.

US transportation tax is 7.5% of the revenue base fare and should not be charges on award tickets.

$6.90 is correct.

Not sure why AA does not charge $5.50 as well, it appears correct to me.

That reminds me - I meant to write the FAA about that transportation tax.

YVR-YOW-YFB-YVM / YFB-YOW-YVR (open jaw), economy. YVR-YOW flights are on AC, everything else is on 7F (First Air). $124.16.

YWG-YRT-YFB / YFB-YOW-YYZ (open jaw), economy. Only the YOW-YYZ leg is on AC, the rest is 7F. $85.31.

YYZ-IST-MLE in J for 2 pax, $122 in fees.

After complaining about "forced fees" in a thread I started a while back, it ended up working out. the love/hate relationship with AP continues....

one-way?
$122 for 2 paxs or per person?

all in TK J?

Enjoy!

Yes x 3.

9 hour layover in IST. Should get some time to explore that lounge. TK also offers a tour of Istanbul if your layover is over 6 hours. It includes a stop at a "Fancy Restaurant"....

Thanks, check that tour time actually fits and know that it costs Canadian $60 USD for a Turkey VISA

For March 2016:

YYZ-DEL AC J stop
DEL-HKG AI J turn
HKG-HND NH J stop
HND-YVR NH J 18 hours in YVR
YVR-YYZ AC J

CAD 258.16 + 150,000 points

Seems low on fees/YQ, are you AC SE?

No...routing through HKG dramatically reduces YQ

Routing through HKG isn't good enough, it's having HKG as a destination.

YVR-HKG-SIN gets hit with the YVR-SIN YQ, but YVR-HND-HKG has a dramatically lower YQ amount.

HND-YVR is on a recliner (regional 787 layout) though, so I wouldn't take that flight. If possible I'd route through Seattle since that's the long-haul lie flat layout

Just made the change from:
2 J seats
YYZ-YUL-FRA-TXL 45,000 pts + $550 per person (AC AC LH)
to
YYZ-BOS-IST-TXL 45,000 pts + $110 per person (AC TK TK)

Great savings!
550-110 = 440 - 103 change cost -- $337 per person less with second routing

Downside: instead of arriving in TXL at 2pm we now arrive at 8pm so miss out on some sightseeing time

Are there glitches in YQ charges right now? YQ/fee amounts currently shown on the Aeroplan website seem low...e.g. Bkk-del-yyz CAD 165.70 on AI and AC. (for one way only as round trips are not working currently)

Compares to del-yyz on AC at CAD 448.10

I booked a ticket YYZ-ORD-CDG-ZRH-BCN-EWR/LGA-YYZ, can't understand the fee charge code for each item as listed below, where can I find the definiation of those code?

11AUG15YTO AC X/CHI UA PAR R0.00LX ZRH R0.00LX BCN R0.00UA EWR R0.00/-NYC AC YTO R0.00NUC0.00 END

ROE1.253340 XT13.40 AY12.00 XA16.80 XY13.20 YC14.90 IZ46.10
CH24.70 JD5.00 QV0.80 OG30.00 YR25.00 SQ22.70 FR16.80 QX XF5.40 LGA4.50

Thats not a glitch - they still seem to charge by destination not segment - and ex-BKK YQ is low.

Tried to book YVR-LHR-VIE-BLQ/WAW-FRA-YYZ-YVR yesterday for a client in J for summer. The YQ+tax was over $1100. She sucked it up and bought a revenue Y ticket for CAD1032 instead.

So basically 90k (+10k opportunity cost) points would have been an upgrade.


Construct your itinerary on ITA using multicity - once you click thru all the flights - the taxes will be detailed on the last page

YYZ to FRA on AC for travel 2016. And before anyone comments, it's well known what I think about YQ. I consider it a barrier to entry to book these types of tickets.

----
Aeroplan Flight Reward
ClassicFlight
Taxes, surcharges and airline fees per passenger (age of 2 and over)
Canada Security Charge (CA)
Carrier Surcharge (YQ)
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight, see fare calculation below (XT)
25.91
876.00
170.95
Additional Charge in Canadian dollars : 0.00
Total in Canadian dollars : 1,072.86
----

It's easy, login into your Aeroplan account, go to My Rewards, click on the flight, and it'll show you the actual details (similar to what you would see during the checkout page)

YUL-FLL in J (yeah, I'm suddenly that guy):

Aeroplan Flight Reward
ClassicFlight
Taxes, surcharges and airline fees per passenger (age of 2 and over)
Canada Security Charge (CA) : 12.10
U.S Agriculture Fee (XA) : 6.00
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight, see fare calculation below (XT) : 114.80
Additional Charge in Canadian dollars : 0.00
Total in Canadian dollars : 132.90

*Fare calculation:
28JUL15YMQ AC FLL R0.00AC YMQ R0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.00
XT8.40XY6.60YC15.00YR2.61XG25.00SQ2.49XQ42.60US6.7 0AY

One way MCO-YYZ in Rouge+
25,000 Aeroplan points plus $69.80

YGK-YYZ-YVR in J
25k miles plus $17.60 USD

Dep: YOW-YYZ-PEK-BKK-CNX (One night in BKK)
Ret: CNX-BKK-VIE-LHR-YOW (One night in LHR)

$1,050.22 plus $33.90 for using an AP agent - who was amazingly helpful!

More importantly --- I was able to book 5 identical itineraries (i.e. 5 x $1,050.22 and 5 x $33.90) to take the whole family.

$1000 per person x 5? OUCH... It better be J to be worth that much
($1000 + 150K Aeroplan) x 5, OUCH

I'll keep checking until departure to find ways to change (for $90) to other low/No YQ carriers, for 5 paxs, if possible

YYZ-IST(overnight)-BCN(stop)-GVA(stop)-LHR-YYZ

60K + $371.65

I love IST!! And the CIP lounge is now even larger, make sure you explore the lower level as well!

Western Canada - Europe J $195

Europe - NBO - BNE - DEL - Europe J $450. One TG segment ruined it!

New to this forum... Just booked the following in Y for $222.16 ($116.20 in YQ). When I did the same route 3 weeks ago it was around $510, did something changed?

YYZ -> HND (AC, Stop)
HND -> HKG (NH, Stop)
HKG -> YYZ (AC)