AC cost cutting going to far?
I just took 2 medium to long haul NA flights in the last couple of days, and it seems that AC is further cutting NA J service. Firstly, the salt and pepper shakers seem to have changed to a simple package. The cookie's and ice cream / cheese and fruit service on transcon seems to also be done away with and replaced with nothing.
Now I realize that most in J are likely on passes, or upgrades, however it seems to me that they are cutting costs too far. Another thing is that with the refurb program, it seems to me they could do more. NZ has 4 or 5 times the IFE that AC has, why is that? Seems to me that AC is too cheap to pay the extra bit of money for a much more premuim product (something I am sure that the value to the customer would outweigh the additional cost to AC). Even the cabin upkeep on NZ seemed better than AC. I also read in Enroute that in October they will start charging for movies in Y, yet many a/c still have to be re-done. How about focusing on completing the refurb program, and building a good product before penny pinching all your customers? |
Originally Posted by shore9
(Post 8474459)
I just took 2 medium to long haul NA flights in the last couple of days, and it seems that AC is further cutting NA J service. Firstly, the salt and pepper shakers seem to have changed to a simple package. The cookie's and ice cream / cheese and fruit service on transcon seems to also be done away with and replaced with nothing.
Now I realize that most in J are likely on passes, or upgrades, however it seems to me that they are cutting costs too far. Another thing is that with the refurb program, it seems to me they could do more. NZ has 4 or 5 times the IFE that AC has, why is that? Seems to me that AC is too cheap to pay the extra bit of money for a much more premuim product (something I am sure that the value to the customer would outweigh the additional cost to AC). Even the cabin upkeep on NZ seemed better than AC. I also read in Enroute that in October they will start charging for movies in Y, yet many a/c still have to be re-done. How about focusing on completing the refurb program, and building a good product before penny pinching all your customers? |
Originally Posted by Sebring
(Post 8474797)
All of this has been dealt with in other threads. On the IFE question, the content is to be upgraded when the installations of AVOD reach critical mass in January and AC begins charging for it within North America.
The October movie guide as per the AC website http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelin...ent/index.html has changed September: Now with 12 films and 35 all new TV shows (should be hours) of tv programming on North American.... Coming soon a $5 charge... October Now with 14 fims and 50 hours of all new TV shows.. Please note that a $5 charge will apply on all North American routes over 3 hours. Soo the question has anyone been charged for this yet or in the next 4 weeks ? |
Originally Posted by AndDee
(Post 8475469)
Yes this has been dealth with in other threads, but yet again another unhappy J customer!
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Originally Posted by AndDee
(Post 8475469)
Yes this has been dealth with in other threads, but yet again another unhappy J customer!
The October movie guide as per the AC website http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelin...ent/index.html has changed September: Now with 12 films and 35 all new TV shows (should be hours) of tv programming on North American.... Coming soon a $5 charge... October Now with 14 fims and 50 hours of all new TV shows.. Please note that a $5 charge will apply on all North American routes over 3 hours. Soo the question has anyone been charged for this yet or in the next 4 weeks ? |
Originally Posted by shore9
(Post 8474459)
I just took 2 medium to long haul NA flights in the last couple of days, and it seems that AC is further cutting NA J service. Firstly, the salt and pepper shakers seem to have changed to a simple package. The cookie's and ice cream / cheese and fruit service on transcon seems to also be done away with and replaced with nothing.
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Originally Posted by shore9
(Post 8474459)
Now I realize that most in J are likely on passes, or upgrades, however it seems to me that they are cutting costs too far.
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Regardless of whether I am happy with AC or not, that is not my point. At the rate that they are going, BOB will soon be introduced in J. Another note, I see that the price of alcohol has gone up to 6 dollars CDN. For those who paid in USD, that represents a 50% increase from 4 to 6 dollars US.
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Originally Posted by shore9
(Post 8476376)
Regardless of whether I am happy with AC or not, that is not my point. At the rate that they are going, BOB will soon be introduced in J. Another note, I see that the price of alcohol has gone up to 6 dollars CDN. For those who paid in USD, that represents a 50% increase from 4 to 6 dollars US.
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Originally Posted by AndDee
(Post 8476436)
I would rather BOB than a crappy meal service
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Originally Posted by AndDee
(Post 8476436)
I would rather BOB than a crappy meal service
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Originally Posted by I'llMissCP
(Post 8476465)
But the problem is the BoB is crap. Stale sandwiches, day old salads. On some routes, they haul it across the country for the return. Not even chilled, had it been fresh that morning. More than once, I have witnessed the cart in the aisle containing packages with yesterday's date. Warm beer/wine for $6 is a rip-off.
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Originally Posted by shore9
(Post 8476471)
That's the way it will go. I'm sure overtime the food will get worse, yet the price will go up, and AC will try and put a positive spin on it somehow. That's just how they do business.
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Instead of saying they will charge $5 for video, why not simply increase the fare by $5? Also, if the BOB is also $5, why not include the $5 in the price of the airfare and serve everyone food, if people decline the food then you're in the profit because they still paid for it.
Honestly, who'll notice an extra $10 on most on-ways?... YYC- LAX $129 with no food and no AVOD, or $139 for full food service and AVOD. The choice to me is clear. |
Originally Posted by pilotboy1985YYC
(Post 8476593)
Honestly, who'll notice an extra $10 on most on-ways?... YYC- LAX $129 with no food and no AVOD, or $139 for full food service and AVOD. The choice to me is clear.
As I agree, BOB+avod+Elite with AC and I would pay 10 bucks over WJ. :) |
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