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llbean Feb 16, 2007 12:18 pm

J in an E90
 
Hello

Can someone tell me what business class in a E90 is like? Is it true there is no hot food only a cold plate? What does it consist of?

Is it worth $50 to change the flight to go on a 320 business class instead?

Im flying YEG to YYZ MOnday.

Thanks

jnswinnipeg Feb 16, 2007 12:49 pm

Lately on YWG-YYZ it was been a salad with chicken or beef on top and yes it is all cold. To be honest I have had the exact same served to me in J on a 319 or 320.

Many people, me included, prefer the E90 because it has the AVOD and a smaller J cabin. For me, I would stay on the E90.


Originally Posted by llbean (Post 7236999)
Hello

Can someone tell me what business class in a E90 is like? Is it true there is no hot food only a cold plate? What does it consist of?

Is it worth $50 to change the flight to go on a 320 business class instead?

Im flying YEG to YYZ MOnday.

Thanks


Prestige Feb 16, 2007 1:28 pm

The AVOD is definitely an advantage (over the hot food IMO) and the seats are pretty comfy too. I personally wouldn’t pay an extra $50 for an A320.

YOWCDNFF Feb 16, 2007 2:09 pm

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...Now the big question is whether you would get an XM'd A320. If that's the case, both offers AVOD. On the E90, you have a chance of getting a single seat - which you may or may not like. I have a slight preference for the new seats on the refurb a320. (Not a huge difference with E90 seats but it is noticeable) I'd say it's a matter of personal choice. On a flight to YEG (from YYZ) you will be offered a hot meal on the airbus. Cold plate only on E90

1st Class Gekko Feb 16, 2007 2:11 pm


Originally Posted by llbean (Post 7236999)
Hello

Can someone tell me what business class in a E90 is like? Is it true there is no hot food only a cold plate? What does it consist of?

Is it worth $50 to change the flight to go on a 320 business class instead?

Im flying YEG to YYZ MOnday.

Thanks

Stay on the E90. It's a more comfortable ride than the 320. but really overall this is domestic J so I can't say the service is that great.

I had a F/A hoard the black label scotch for another pax in J when I flew YYZ - YYC a couple of weeks ago. I was not impressed!

yyz-kin Feb 16, 2007 2:32 pm

Definately the E90
 
I really like the bizo on this plane. If it is a newly configured bizo on airbus it would be worth a second guess, but not sure of the chances. I really like the single seat and the entertainment.

Poco Feb 16, 2007 4:34 pm

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I find the E90 seats a little narrow compared to the Airbus, and there never seems to be enough overhead storage for everyone's bags. But the disadvantages are slight and I like the single seats on the left. I'd make my decision on convenience of schedule not which plane.

Ford Prefect Feb 16, 2007 6:29 pm

J in E's
 

Originally Posted by llbean (Post 7236999)
Hello

Can someone tell me what business class in a E90 is like? Is it true there is no hot food only a cold plate? What does it consist of?

Is it worth $50 to change the flight to go on a 320 business class instead?

Im flying YEG to YYZ MOnday.

Thanks

I have only flown J class on an E-75 to ORD. It was morning so we had a cold breakfast plate consisting of suprising fresh fruit, pastries, juice and coffee. I was in a single seat on the port side of the plane. Nice roomy seat and I loved the window placement on the Embraer as I like to look out a lot. AVOD doesn't hold any fascination for me for a short flight. I watch too much TV as it is and would rather read (too bad we don't have a flightdeck channel like UA but that is another thread). Overhead storage may be slightly less on an Embraer especially on the single side, but I was travelling fairly light and had no problem with a poster tube and my laptop bag.

Realistically, you'll only get great food (if that) perhaps in J on International Executive class. I flew J to Las Vegas a couple of years ago and the food was OK. You will get better in any family restaurant.

Ford

why fly Feb 16, 2007 6:35 pm

the E90 are great! lots of room new planes and the seats are NOT hard like a 320. For a short flight like this one take the E90. I would pay the $50 to switch to the E90:eek:

Stranger Feb 16, 2007 8:55 pm

Remember, however, that the E90 is slow and has a low ceiling. Slower than the 320 and I believe than the CRJ.

Design optimized for short range, i.e., small wing and low ceiling. Slow and inefficient for long range.

Andrew Yiu Feb 16, 2007 9:03 pm


Originally Posted by Stranger (Post 7239350)
Remember, however, that the E90 is slow and has a low ceiling. Slower than the 320 and I believe than the CRJ.

Design optimized for short range, i.e., small wing and low ceiling. Slow and inefficient for long range.

Don't exaggerate.

Cruising speed:

A320 - 837 km/h (520 mph)
E90 - 811 km/h (504 mph)
CRJ - 789 km/h (490 mph)

YYZ-YEG 2696 km.

Disregarding headwinds and tailwind which affect planes equally: 3.2 hours (192 mins) on A320 and 3.32 hours (199 mins) on E90.

Have a look at the YYZ-YEG schedule yourself, the block time is almost identical.

YEG-YYZ
AC158 (A320) 3:39
AC114 (A320) 3:45
AC106 (A320) 3:45
AC126 (A320) 3:45
AC172 (E90) 3:45
AC178 (A320) 3:45
AC154 (E90) 3:45

(WS's 73W block time is 3:44 so you can't say we purposely fly the 320 as slow as the E90)

luv2flyJ Feb 16, 2007 10:08 pm

I guess it's all about personal preference. I normally try to avoid the E90's on my frequent YUL-YEG runs. J in an E90 is a downgrade in J service IMO. No hot meal on any flight over 3 hours is very noticable (many FA's apologize for the lack of a hot meal). I don't ever recall getting hot towel service on an E90 and it at least feels like there is less space to work, especially when someone ahead of you puts their seat back. All minor things, I know, but isn't it the little things that make J more appealing (aside from the bigger seat and more leg room)? Add in the lack of overhead storage and the questions of reliability and it's an easy choice for me.

Sebring Feb 16, 2007 10:25 pm


Originally Posted by Andrew Yiu (Post 7239376)
Don't exaggerate.

Cruising speed:

A320 - 837 km/h (520 mph)
E90 - 811 km/h (504 mph)
CRJ - 789 km/h (490 mph)

YYZ-YEG 2696 km.

Disregarding headwinds and tailwind which affect planes equally: 3.2 hours (192 mins) on A320 and 3.32 hours (199 mins) on E90.

Have a look at the YYZ-YEG schedule yourself, the block time is almost identical.

YEG-YYZ
AC158 (A320) 3:39
AC114 (A320) 3:45
AC106 (A320) 3:45
AC126 (A320) 3:45
AC172 (E90) 3:45
AC178 (A320) 3:45
AC154 (E90) 3:45

(WS's 73W block time is 3:44 so you can't say we purposely fly the 320 as slow as the E90)

Owww. Stranger's been pwned totally!

Rejuvenated Feb 16, 2007 10:33 pm


Originally Posted by Prestige (Post 7237382)
I personally wouldn’t pay an extra $50 for an A320.

Neither would I.

Rejuvenated Feb 16, 2007 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by 1st Class Gekko (Post 7237643)
but really overall this is domestic J so I can't say the service is that great.

Yup, great service has not been plenty on domestic J.


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